138: The Burger Chef Murders with Buddy Dave!

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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you

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[SPEAKER_05]: And to I take advantage with him, she got a little chocolate turtle brownie cake.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I was like, well, Shane's not here, you know, he's on his weight loss journey and real crowd of him, but it's limited the snacks that it's in Green Cause not that he would, you know, make us feel bad or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Just I, I don't want to add temptation.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's like someone trying to quit cigarettes and go into a bar where everybody's smoking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I still do that even after all of these.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I do ever once in a while.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Some most of the time cigarette smoke stings to me.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Everyone wants in a while.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I smell a man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's when they first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's when they first light up.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, before it gets stanky that little.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that first.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I've been really getting the tingles with like.

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[SPEAKER_05]: The smell of chewing tobacco and colon.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I'm like, oh, what kind of white trash trauma is this?

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[SPEAKER_05]: You can tell I was raised in the trash because I'm like, oh, chewing tobacco smell and cigarette smoke, oh, baby.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I bet he has some drama.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're ridiculous.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're ridiculous.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're ridiculous.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For our wonderful listeners out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Last week, you got to hear Emily.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Emily, you get to listen to her buddy Dave today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hi, Dave.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Hi, everybody.

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[SPEAKER_05]: How you doing?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, just living the dream.

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[SPEAKER_05]: This is another one of Kim's bestest friends.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You can tell she doesn't have a lot of female friends.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And usually if a woman does a have female friends, it's got she's a B word.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Is that true Kim?

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[SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_06]: You're using that word, friend, just like, friend.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's a word.

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[SPEAKER_05]: A quaintence.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: We've known each other for gosh, about thirteen years.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Maybe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was right after Amber passed away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it would be like thirteen years in October.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You all met like Shane and all of you met around the same time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, Shane didn't come until much after.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Shane and I met in hell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We call it hell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't call it by name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We met in hell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dave and I met in hell also, but it was years before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So social.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he, I mean, we knew each other for a while before we got close.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And oh, I don't know about six months or so after I got put on Dave's team, his sister was killed in an accident.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That motor cycle accident.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was there when he got that call and I knew what he was going through.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Dave and I got really close after that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we've been friends since because we've both, you know, been through the grieving process together.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And any have very similar interest and hobbies.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, you guys love a concert.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love a concert.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we've been to so many concerts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even think I could count how many concerts we've had.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I thank you.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You two are the most concert people I know.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, we do have our annual trip to Indianapolis every year to go see straightener.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I consider that Kim's birthday present plus I get the tickets in June.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So I get to hold it over her head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You better be nice to me half.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's exactly right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's exactly what he does.

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[SPEAKER_06]: She says once more, I'll comment and I'm like, you know, I guess someone don't want to go see straightener.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Or, you know, I can take someone else to go.

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[SPEAKER_06]: You know, you don't have to be there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He holds it over my head for a good six months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have, you know, our rituals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I go pick him up and take him somewhere, if I take him back home and he gets ready to get out of the car, I'll yell, get your shit and get out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll always say, miss me and he'll say, heck, I miss you if you don't go away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's cute.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Shame why can't you be cute like that?

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[SPEAKER_05]: You haven't used up.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, he does.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Downslide.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's magic.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Colin or that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That ain't cute.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's funny.

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[SPEAKER_06]: No, is that nice to say when he's not here?

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: That's when we say it.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm his brother.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I get him right here.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, it's not here.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, it's not here.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, it's not here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's not here.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, it's not here.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, it's not here.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, it's not here.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, it's not here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's not here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shane is not here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we have a tendency to, we tell stories.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, something will come up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that'll remind us of something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, tell stories.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we've told numerous stories about you.

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[SPEAKER_06]: No, good grief.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what I would like for you to do is tell a story about us.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All of us going and doing something.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't really have any.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, well, I think we've only done the one thing together.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We went to there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, one concert.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, not necessarily Josh, but Shane and I. Since Shane's not here to defend himself.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Have you told the story about going to see the movie train wreck?

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[SPEAKER_06]: I have not.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So I don't know when this happened.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't remember when that happened.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Is this another circle jerk thing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_06]: No.

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[SPEAKER_06]: No.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I have certain stories about Kim.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But with Kim and Jane.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, with Kim and Jane, we had gone to Marion to go see the movie Train Rack.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Is that the Amy Schumer?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And the John Cena.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes, it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Twenty-fifteen is when that came out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_06]: See all of his ass and then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that the right one?

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[SPEAKER_06]: It was the only time I didn't want to see him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh no, I enjoyed it quite for getting that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, it was July of twenty fifteen when that came.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And we had gone to Marion to go see it at the movie theater up there.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I say up there because I'm from Munsey.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So we had gone and it had just started pouring down rain after the movie was over.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And Shane and I are pretty tall guys.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And can run a little faster than Kim.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Kind of like the little cartoon.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_06]: You have the two big animals running and you just have this little like little to wall wall following them.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So it's just pouring down rain and change driving.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So instead, we all started going running towards the carcass.

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[SPEAKER_06]: It was like parked really close to the theater.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And Kim started running in the rain.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, God.

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[SPEAKER_06]: We get in the car and I yell at Shane.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I say, walk the door.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Lock the door.

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[SPEAKER_06]: She didn't tell him twice.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Shane was like, I already thought about it.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Lock the door and Kim is standing out there next to the car.

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[SPEAKER_01]: pouring rain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in the bathroom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Beating on the window.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Calling us every name of the book.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was drenched.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's clear down to my underwear and broth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's never in the water.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's never in the water.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No kid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not in the wild.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And she's getting those that like, either the pissed off face or like the sad puppy.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm going to murder.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And I probably cried so hard on the way home from laughing at that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I froze all the way from the heart of my dog.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm sure.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Of course.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey now.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But one of my other funny stories about Kim.

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[SPEAKER_06]: We had gone to an Indianapolis culture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will never, ever live this day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no.

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[SPEAKER_06]: She will not.

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[SPEAKER_06]: We went with, it was myself, Kim, and Adam.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Adam and Cole Adam and Cole are friends of Ambers.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And we were trying to figure out how to get out of downtown Indianapolis because obviously roads were blocked off before the people to go to the stadium and etc.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of them are one way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We can only go one way.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So Kim is like, well, we can turn down this way.

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[SPEAKER_06]: We just gotta wait for light change.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And so she's behind these two cars.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And the light is changing.

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[SPEAKER_06]: The cars aren't moving.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Lights changing.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Cars not moving.

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[SPEAKER_05]: They're in a parking lot.

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[SPEAKER_06]: No, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_06]: These were two parked taxis that she was sitting behind waiting and didn't realize it for at the very least five minutes.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, gosh, he's there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it probably cycled through red, you know, green at least two or three times.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I was like exploded.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I would have explored.

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[SPEAKER_06]: She said they're going, what are you guys doing?

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[SPEAKER_06]: What did it?

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[SPEAKER_06]: And then we just realized the cars are parked.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And she's parked behind these cars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, that story gets brought up at least once or twice a year.

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[SPEAKER_05]: She gets so nervous behind the wall sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but it's so weird.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Like every time the story is brought up, the amount of time that she's set behind these two cars.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It keeps getting longer and longer.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We were there for ten years.

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[SPEAKER_06]: It's getting, it's getting.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I think at one point it was close to an hour in one of the stories like she had just been parked there.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Like why are you not going?

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[SPEAKER_06]: Why are you not just

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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, I mean, you know, with Shane being a friend, there's stories that Shane has that I just love.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And every time we meet somebody new, I ask him to tell those stories.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anytime Dave meets somebody new, he tells them the story about me getting stuck between.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And so there's one time this dumbass over here.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Pretty much.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Pretty much.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I thought I saw the sunset that time and civilizations disappeared into nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We waited.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_06]: There was like, I present the change.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, I can't remember if it was the last time that we recorded with Shane at the time before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had told the story about when you got upset with him over the tickets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Over the tickets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you and I were going somewhere and he kept saying that, you know, well, I guess I'll hang out with my real friends because we didn't invite him or get him a ticket.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't even remember this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He blocked it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, that's hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we were at hell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were working.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we had gotten tickets to something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you had actually got them, you know, when we were talking about it, we just got them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we didn't ask Shane if he wanted to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't remember what the tickets were for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember who we were going to go see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he started harassing us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to, you know, I don't want to go anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll hang out with my real friends.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Was it Pat McAfee and Fort Wayne?

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[SPEAKER_06]: It could have been.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Because I know he was not happy being there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, he was uncomfortable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it wasn't that because he didn't end up going with us wherever it was that we went.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I don't remember where it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he kept harassing us about, you know, us going without him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he, you know, he felt really, you know, I'll just sit at home with my friends and with my real friends and this, and every time he would make a comment, you would get matter and matter and finally you exploded and ran these yells, take a lap Eugene.

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[SPEAKER_06]: She ain't just knows like that one button.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he knows.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And that's just not afraid to just press into that button.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, he's not so much.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I share room with him for sixteen years.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, he's forceful.

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[SPEAKER_06]: No.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You don't do it to me because I know I'm the same way.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You'll notice both of us were very like civil with each other because they're both like, you know too much.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I think I may have exploded at him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: a couple times where we're between that and when he put congratulations on your Facebook page.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, that story, too.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So I, okay, I guess can I say it from my point of view then?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So I had just broken up with a girl.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Who ended up marrying a guy that looked like sloth from the goonies, but that's neither here nor there.

11:42.122 --> 11:53.893
[SPEAKER_06]: Anyway, so at the time I had phone coverage that was only like you only had so much data back in the day before unlimited came in and it's wonderful now.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So I had just gotten to the point where I was out of data.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So I was putting my phone on airplane mode at work to, you know, no, that was over just exactly.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And so I got home and I had internet and I connected there.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, I was getting ready to go to break.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And one of our friends Cecil, I was telling my boss that I was going to break.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And he was sitting right next to our boss and he looks at me and goes, hey, congratulations on the baby.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, God.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And I looked at him and I said,

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[SPEAKER_06]: The hair you're talking about.

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[SPEAKER_06]: What?

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[SPEAKER_06]: What baby?

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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't know if you can baby.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Hey, man.

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[SPEAKER_06]: If there's a baby, it's not mine.

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[SPEAKER_06]: He's like, he looked at me and goes, no, Shane just posted on your Facebook wall.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Hey, congratulations on the baby.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And I'm like,

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[SPEAKER_06]: No, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And Cecil was looking at me, like, oh my god, I am so sorry, you know, I didn't mean to say that if it's not true.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And I'm like, no, I don't have any kids.

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[SPEAKER_06]: My boss is looking at me like, hey, congratulations.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And I like, I was like, Mark, no.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Hey, dad, no, there's no.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And like, the girl and I were still friends.

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[SPEAKER_06]: on Facebook.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh God.

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[SPEAKER_06]: They're like, this literally, the breakup happened makes you appreciate it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You screwed around with me.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_06]: That's why I was afraid of.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So you'd be like, well, why are you cheating on me?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So you bastard run because we were sitting at and where the break room was was a good

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was clear.

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[SPEAKER_06]: It was a big building on the side of the building.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So I like jogging to the break room to get out my phone and I erase this.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and I come back and Shane is just laughing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just rolling.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, he knows what happened.

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[SPEAKER_06]: He knows everything happened.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Apparently they went to him and like, why did you put that on his wall?

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[SPEAKER_06]: He was just playing a joke.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And yeah, and I'm saying they're like freaking the crap out because I'm afraid.

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[SPEAKER_06]: The girl was going to look at this and be like, oh my god, you've been cheating on it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And my job to conclusions.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Right exactly.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And my anxiety back then was a hell of a lot worse than it does now.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Thank you, the therapist.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Better help.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's sponsored us.

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[SPEAKER_06]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But yeah, and Shane is just having a field day with us.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he was really selling the basket.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I remember when cell phones first, like, started coming, you know, when everybody had one, he was big on at the pranks.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He would prank me and grandma a lot.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Back when you could send like automated text messages, right?

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, and you could set the number, like, ten, twenty, a thousand.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And, you know, it locks your phone down because if you try to do anything, it pops up text message, text message, text message, text message, a thousand times.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Over and over.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Grable, you know, she got it real bad anxiety too.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think my phone's broken.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know what's going on with it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: They said he's saying, I think, oh, is he okay?

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[SPEAKER_05]: I can't read it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I try to read it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then another one comes up and that's it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_06]: You know, he's joking.

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[SPEAKER_06]: He's joking.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I've learned things to come that not to give him myself on.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_05]: See, we're very different.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He likes to do cyber pranks where I like to see the face.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, I do the prank.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I like to watch my crimes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't even begin to tell you how many times he's gone on Craigslist and answered things for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was one time he answered an ad on fainting goats.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would like a fainting go.

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[SPEAKER_05]: If I show on my whisker biscuit, will that make him faint?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, he done that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The silos was the best one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the last one that he did because I threatened if he ever done that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I'd kill him because this guy had a silo that he had torn apart.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was trying to get rid of and he messaged him and gave me my name and number.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This guy calls and I said, you know, he sits up and I said, I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got the wrong number and I hung up on him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it calls right back and he says, is this kimmerrow?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, yeah, he says, yeah, you're the one that answered the ad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, no, I'm not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did not answer the ad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you know, finally, I screamed at him because he called me like three times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And finally, I'm like, let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a joke.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a joke.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I did not call him pranked me.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, Shane loves you when he pranked you.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I wanted to kill him then.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We were real big on jump scares when we were growing up.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I like it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Hyden and scared me a lot of someone.

16:33.904 --> 16:36.766
[SPEAKER_05]: But like we are goal was to like scare you so much.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You're like, Pete.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Didn't do it very often.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Our buddy Cecil does that to his wife all the time and then post some on Facebook.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a funny.

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[SPEAKER_05]: If anybody pulled in the house like our dad or somebody, you know, we instantly run to go hide like that's home.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Where's the best on a hide in the bathroom?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Cause he's gonna go in there and then write when he's pee it open the shower.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, we were still kids, but even at like seven years old, we're like five foot seven, five foot eight.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So, you know, we're still tall.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's all over the walls.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wasn't crime confine?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, it was.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'd love to be in a class.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had a class.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We had so much to call her out or was it awesome?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm still a little stoned.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm so jealous.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure that you will be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: However, we've not been there yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're recording a head, so.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So yeah, this comes out like a week.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like the week after I get back.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, crime crime is so much fun.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I loved it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So so cool.

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[SPEAKER_05]: See him.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I. T. Yeah, I. He's supposed to be.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I was going to have an ice cube mixed up.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And you know, I like iced tea on is in CI.

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[SPEAKER_05]: CSI wanted one of the police shows he's on.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's been off forever.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I just get it mixed up.

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[SPEAKER_06]: It's a long order.

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[SPEAKER_06]: That's a long.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's done.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I love it because he like no matter what the situation is his character like adds a little bit of lightness and humor to it like oh man this is crazy and but

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, iced tea, respect.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You do a good job, but I'd much rather see Chris Maloney.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'd like to see Chris Maloney Maloney Maloney.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, he is so handsome.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Ever since that scene from Oz, my god, that was such a gay awakening, which is really messed up.

18:40.463 --> 18:42.063
[SPEAKER_05]: But just such a, ooh.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Have you seen Embers?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Do you know what I'm talking about?

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[SPEAKER_05]: There's a show.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think it was early two thousands called Oz about a man's prison.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Chris Maloney played like the head prisoner like he played up like a bad guy in it, which is, you know, a lot different than how people normally see him.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But there's one scene where and this is like Chris Maloney and it's prime like Bill Harry musnly like forties or so.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And this guy's like,

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[SPEAKER_05]: servicing him in the shower with his mouth.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You see pretty much everything.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, wow.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So you're like, oh, my.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then, you know, as things do, they have an end to them and during the end of the shower.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love what he tries to be big.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, it's saying on NAS kind of EVG during the end of the shower, Chris Maloney succumbs to his passion.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Nice word.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And yeah, yeah, I squeezed still squeezed it in there.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And as soon as he does, reaches down and you think like, oh, and you know, good boy.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But no, it's a perks guy's neck.

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[SPEAKER_05]: and it turned a lot of guys on me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know why.

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[SPEAKER_05]: There's a lot about it, but I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Not that I want that to happen, but it's like, oh, Chris Maloney is real sexy, would it be worth it?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Maybe.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I would honestly have to think about it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: The opportunity came on me.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I got much going on right now, you know.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I love her so much.

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[SPEAKER_05]: What does she in?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Where's Cargatee?

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[SPEAKER_05]: She's in the show with them.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: She's the woman in it with the brown hair.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's brown hair.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We spoke about her a few weeks ago.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Her mom's Jane, that documentary, my mom's Jane just came out.

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[SPEAKER_05]: What's that name?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Man's filled.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, Jane made a film.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's Marsha Hargaday's her daughter.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I haven't seen it yet.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't have HBO Max anymore.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I really had to limit my eyes.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I was going to say her murder was pretty big.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It was a murder.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they like drove into the back of the semi and all semis now have that man's film bar in the back of them.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, Lil Mersko was found in the backseat like they had left.

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[SPEAKER_05]: The car accident scene with the other her brothers and sisters in the, you know, the police car.

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[SPEAKER_05]: They had no idea.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Mersk was even in the car.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So they had to go back and they found her like a sleep under the floorboards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh wow.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Of the, like just, you know, crouched in the rubble.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's heavy sleeper.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have a new one on Hulu.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's about the Delphi murderers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they have seen Richard's owl.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have his wife on there.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh God.

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[SPEAKER_05]: See, that's what I, out of all of it, that's who I'm curious about is her.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Because she, you know, swears up and down he didn't do it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I always feel bad for the murderers family, especially when they don't know, unless there is proof in they've been, you know, drought, guilty, and then the person still like, no, what you just said she's doing.

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[SPEAKER_05]: To me, that's giving, like, I can't cope with the reality of this.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm gonna just deny it for my own sanity type of, you know, like, I can't bring herself to no way.

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[SPEAKER_05]: My husband did this, you know, without me knowing, like, there's no way.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I can't be that, you know, blonde.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I enjoyed it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It had some good information.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there were some new things that came out in and I can't remember what they were.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, they were telling about some of the evidence that they had found.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they were at crime con.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to be at the new one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's what we're getting ready to see.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We're back already back.

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[SPEAKER_05]: They were at crime con and we did see them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we will be.

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[SPEAKER_05]: This is all like psychic guessing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, I plan on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I do too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're definitely want to see.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, they're going to, I think they're having like a whole segment and like somebody that worked on my teeth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they were just a little techative, I think.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I know Nancy Grace, I see the Delphi family who else was there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen some quite a few ones that I would like to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have that scheduling app?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Not yet.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'll get it before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because that's a good way to keep track.

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[SPEAKER_05]: See, now this is my third year.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Generally, it takes me three times, like, all my third time of doing something to where I don't get the anxiety and the stress.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like, you feel like, by my third time, I've got a handle on it, even though it's a different location and, you know, different things.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I know, like, I know how to do some math.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I know, you know, I've got a safe place to go to where I can get away from the crowd if I need be.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Good, I love that, not love, but I like that you have anxiety almost like similar because you know, you've got to plant stuff out like it's not like a whim like I can just walk into a crowded room and be okay, you know, I'll pass out my feet will go numb and I'll have a panic attack if I don't plan ahead.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's why I'm glad it's Colorado because I can take a little gummy and I can just walk into a crowd of crew.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm like, I'm walking on sunshine.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You guys are fabulous.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I love people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, please talk to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm walking through a crime con just waving his hands and yelling at people and talking and I can just see you doing that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I plan to just, you know, especially since it's my third time, I know like

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[SPEAKER_05]: I know I'm respectful to people but I can also be fun and respectful because my first crime con and even last years I still had like the mentality that like almost like a funeral home because a lot of deaths and murders and bad things happen surrounding crime con and that's why I'm glad that they allowed us to do our live and that it's centered around you know let's end the weekend with a laugh a lightness because there is a

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[SPEAKER_05]: a heaviness in this field of work, but it doesn't always have to be so heavy.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that was probably the one thing when we went to Vegas, the first one that we went to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that was the one thing that really set out in mind is how many people that was there handing out flyers of people of their loved ones that it was either missing or they had been murdered, trying to get people to give them exposure for their case.

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[SPEAKER_05]: half of my duffle bag was full of, you know, that little bag they gave me.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I mean, it was just chock full of them.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I did, after each one, I always look through them.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I always look at the pictures and out like, there's not anything someone like that gives me that I just throw away.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But there are some people that come up to your table and I don't know it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: They don't have any involvement with a missing case, but they just give off a feeling of like, I'm doing this to try to be, you know, for cloud, like, I'm doing this because it's popular and I want to be popular too.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm like, I have to feel that your heart's in the right place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have you ever wondered just because it is such a crime-oriented thing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have you ever wondered when you were there

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[SPEAKER_05]: How many serial killers and murderers are walking through here right now, especially looking and staring at the podcasters, perhaps who have covered a case that they've worked on and they're relishing in the fact that they've done this murder and these all this room full of thousands.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now see, I don't get it when that deep.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I just wonder how many murderers are excited.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, this is exciting.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He knows exactly.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like, do you think a lot?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Why do you think I'm always so tired?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Because my brain's like, this is one of those, as soon as my eyes open,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've always wondered.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder how many murderers are killer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've never.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm people watching for them, too, because, you know, it's not going to be someone who looks like a murderer.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's going to be someone who, you know, you would never suspect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But of course, what at least eighty percent are women.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And thankfully, because women, you know, there's not a lot of mostly women kill for revenge or as men kill for power.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And there's just thankfully not as many women killers.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And if there are, I feel like I would be less pissed if a woman's hero killer killed me, but like I get it, men are shit.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I'm not completely.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I still want to live and fight, you know, but on some level I'd be like, I get it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I get it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I get it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: My nature.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, men are kind of shitty towards women from much history.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I get it from.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I get it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, I might not have been me this crudiover, but I get it.

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[SPEAKER_06]: The sad part is I can picture it.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Like, she's over him with a knife saying, you got any last words.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I get it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But in my luck, that would be what saved me.

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[SPEAKER_05]: She would look.

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[SPEAKER_04]: No one's ever said that to me before.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I got it.

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[SPEAKER_06]: You see me.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, honey, I can't get rid of you.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_06]: You make sense.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And that's how I get it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's been the basement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, shit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to let Rick out long enough to go.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, good.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Is he going to be there?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, good.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, Rick, our glad we all got a chance to have dinner while we were at cry of calm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was that that would happen?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He always hangs out with us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I hope other podcasters we know were there.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's what I like to since it's my third time.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I know people were the first time you're like, I had no nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know the girl from

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[SPEAKER_01]: old case file.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The one that her dad was murdered.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know she's going to be there.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I know just from Asian madness.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if she's going to be there or not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think she is.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Pia from crimes from the East.

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[SPEAKER_05]: She usually goes.

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[SPEAKER_05]: She wasn't at last years.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I haven't asked her if she's was there this year.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Hopefully she was.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Erin and in Kristen CV from murder.

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[SPEAKER_05]: She told podcast.

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[SPEAKER_05]: She usually goes if she has time.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Last year she was there on just the very last day.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But I got to see her.

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[SPEAKER_05]: She's very very lovely.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Nice lady.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if there's one ladies that was excited.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Was it sisters that killed was that who was behind the last?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, yeah, they were.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Or a table between.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We had what who is the one next to us, the cute guy with the go-t.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The one that was on the other side of us was smell drogue.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, we had the Canadian guy for his name.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's real nice.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Very nice guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a real nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then on the other side, him was the track of man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Aaron and oh my goodness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why can I remember his name?

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[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know, but the one I liked was given off.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He might let you after a few beers kind of vibes.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Respectfully.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Respectfully.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Respectfully.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Unless you don't want that, then I'm open.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're ridiculous.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Now it's going to drive me crazy until I find out where.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, you know, consent always such a thing.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's why I always say, I can send to whatever you want to do to him.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's why you can't be real picky when you're a pillow princess.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's got a lay there.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Here ridiculous.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You do the work.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm tired.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm tired.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm blinded.

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[UNKNOWN]: I swear.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Don't do that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Let me see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Need the jeopardy seem very loud.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is going to be really stupid because just as soon as I see it, it's going to pop into my head.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a popular one.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Boy, those mountains in Colorado were beautiful.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I've never seen mountains that big.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Generation Y. That's what it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Generation Y. And the Stanley was so cool.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah, the Stanley Hotel.

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[SPEAKER_05]: For a second house, like the Stanley Cup, that was there.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Taking a Stanley Hotel, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It was creepy.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You know, out of all the times, I've been possessed in a hotel.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That was the funnest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now we're talking all about all this, and then when we actually... We'll come back and I'll... Hello, my name is John Ruhlard.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm from hell.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I hate when the sun does that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It went down and got clouded.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was like, Oh, that ain't good.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You make all those jokes when it starts getting darker.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Wake up, can't quit yawning.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, help it.

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[SPEAKER_06]: She's party's all night.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_05]: She does too.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I know she has to wake up early during the week and she'll be sending TikToks to me and Shannon like, eleven thirty close to midnight.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm always in my head.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, go to bed, grandma.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You got to be up in the few hours.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You're all good to sleep.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You need it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It depends.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I have slept in a little bit, you know, like on the weekends or stuff, it'll probably be at least a lemon or a twelve before I go to sleep tonight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it usually Monday night and Tuesday nights the nights that I fall asleep the fastest because of diet.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I've been if I do scroll at night, I'll put on something like kind of boring to fall asleep to like

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[SPEAKER_05]: Here's a video of historical facts spoken at a monotone with a slightly British voice.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm not sure if it's AI or what.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really need to start setting a timer when I start knowing that I'm going to start scrolling that away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know because I lose track so fast and the next thing I look up and I'm like, oh, what a clock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess it's time to go to bed.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Especially TikTok because it hides time from.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'll even start looking around.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, dammit, I don't have any other sources of time besides a microwave in this house.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have a clock.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I do now, but I mean, most people, you know, previously you'd have wall clocks and like digital clocks for your alarm clock, but now everything's just, you know, on your phone.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So a lot of people don't have clocks anymore.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You don't realize to, you don't have one on your phone.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You're like, what the hell time is it?

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[SPEAKER_05]: It's true.

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[SPEAKER_05]: What year is this?

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[SPEAKER_05]: Right, right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Getting a little TikTok spiral.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, Dave, do you have a mystery for us today?

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[SPEAKER_05]: I do.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Don't worry.

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[SPEAKER_06]: All right, kids.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Let's, uh, more than you got, Kim's here.

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[SPEAKER_06]: All right, guys, gang.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there we go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, yeah, we're the gay art, the gang.

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[SPEAKER_06]: All right, gang.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Let's go back in time a little bit, Sean.

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[SPEAKER_06]: My favorite.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, to a little town called Speedway, Indiana.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Now, known for the Indianapolis, five hundred, backyard four hundred.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I didn't know it was its own town.

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[SPEAKER_06]: It's its own old town on the south west side of India.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_05]: See, when you're from Muncie, India is like, from anything past Noblesville to downtown, India is the one I think.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think India and then you get older and you're like, oh, there's India or Noblesville, Carmel, Fisher, like, there's towns.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I've lived in Muncie for

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[SPEAKER_06]: Since, in five, and I still can't tell you what's on the south side, Muncie.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh really?

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[SPEAKER_06]: I know there's I know there's you know there's a Walmart there's a Walmart.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, there's that road that all the old cars drive down on the weekend for spun for some reason Yeah, I was gonna say anything past memorial.

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[SPEAKER_06]: No clue.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I do.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I know there's a Walmart there on the south side town That's about it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: There's a park with cabins.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You can get a blow job for five dollars on a Friday.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, this is probably good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's probably good information for him.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Hey, I at least when I live there.

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[SPEAKER_06]: You can

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[SPEAKER_06]: So we're going to travel to Speedway, Indiana to a little restaurant known as the Burger Chef.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Do you remember Burger Chefs?

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[SPEAKER_06]: Do you?

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[SPEAKER_06]: I don't.

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[SPEAKER_06]: You don't?

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[SPEAKER_06]: No, I think I do.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I think it finally got sold to Hardies in like the eighties.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I remember seeing it in like older movies from it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you're still tin, you're brought tin years younger than me, aren't you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just turned forty five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, remember we had a lot of talk about how I saw him about twelve years old or set, but yeah, I remember them pretty vaguely because I mean McDonald's was there, but it wasn't as big.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We always went to Burger Chef.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was one in Winchester, so and we went to Winchester a lot.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Well see, and and the funny thing is about Burger Chef is that it I didn't mean to interrupt you by that it actually started in Indianapolis.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Huh, that didn't know.

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[SPEAKER_06]: In nineteen fifty four at first door opened in fifty seven.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And at the time, it was, it was pretty much almost a precursor to McDonald's.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I mean, McDonald's was there, but some of the ideas that Burger Chef had McDonald's kind of,

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[SPEAKER_06]: didn't steal but they took their version of later on like a happy meal like they're happy meal yeah so the happy meal at burger chef was called a fun meal and it actually started in seventy two while the McDonald's happy meal started in seventy nine

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, right away, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So, Burger Chef was like, you know, the starter to all this new ideas stuff, like, they're advertising with two cartoon characters and the fun meal, et cetera, et cetera.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And actually, they were, like, number two in the, like, rankings of Burger places.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, damn.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's number one white castle with McDonald's.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: They also create what's called the big chef, which sounds familiar, if you think about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Big Mac.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_06]: It's it's two beef patties on two patties, cheese lettuce sauce in a bun in the middle, which you can look good in the back.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Just with that.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So it falls on island dressing.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Do I'll be patties, special sauce lettuce cheese.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, so let's let me see.

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[SPEAKER_05]: There we go.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So, and then they started that in sixty-four and McDonald's didn't start the Big Mac until sixty-seven.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, gee.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So, yeah, they got some a while to copy, but they knew it.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Right, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But we're going to go to this burger chef in Speedway in November of nineteen seventy-eight.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Just a little while ago.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: It's about.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I was ten.

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[SPEAKER_06]: You were ten.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I was not even born yet.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I was born two years later.

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[SPEAKER_05]: My mother was ten.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I know I'm the same age as your mother.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So the thing about this burger chef is that it had that night for employees was working.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Jane Freed and I hope I'm saying that name right Mark Flemonds Ruth Sheldon and Daniel Davis We're working that night around midnight getting the place cleaned up because they just closed the shop at eleven o'clock and that's late right especially for nineteen seventy right really thought that goes like seven

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[SPEAKER_06]: Right, because, and especially in a little town like Speedway, because at that time, they were doing commercials saying, hey, it's ten o'clock.

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[SPEAKER_06]: You know, you're good kids.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Don't forget you have kids.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, don't forget.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And so these four were working that night.

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[SPEAKER_06]: The store closed the eleven o'clock.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And they had another employee that was just driving by and had noticed that the back door of the place was open still.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And the lights were on.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So he went in to check to see what was going on.

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[SPEAKER_06]: There's nobody in there.

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[SPEAKER_06]: The place is ransacked.

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[SPEAKER_06]: The four people that were supposed to be there were gone.

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[SPEAKER_06]: The two ladies' purses were still around.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And they noticed that they were trying to play a trick on or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_06]: It just ended up in this weird thing to happen.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So he called his boss and boss said, well, call the police because it could have been a robbery, it could have been, you know, what happened?

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[SPEAKER_06]: Kidnapping?

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, Kidnapping who knows.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So the police get there and they notice that there was like money bags gone and really only five hundred and five hundred and eighty-one dollars were taken a lot back then right so the police just assumed all kids being kids they just took the money and went party

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[SPEAKER_06]: until they noticed the next day, the kids didn't come back.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And the people that apparently had grabbed these kids, and I say kids loosely, I think one of them was like, twenty years old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's still a baby.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, still my kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Had taken Jean Fritz car, Fritz, a car, and had parked it a few miles away from the store, like closer to the speedway police station.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So the police just blew it off saying, oh, they were just party and they'll be back.

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[SPEAKER_06]: You know, you guys can go ahead and clean this up and all this before you even taking pictures of the evidence.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh my God.

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[SPEAKER_05]: They were so non-shallot.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: For it to be the next day when they're like, oh, they might actually be in trouble.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, it was just weird because the kids never came back.

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[SPEAKER_06]: There is no evidence of anything crazy happening so they allowed them to clean up the store and open up the next day.

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[SPEAKER_06]: They're guys all that evidence.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Wipe down.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So they went ahead and did it.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And then a few days later.

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[SPEAKER_06]: There were two people walking in this wooded area in Johnson County, which is a little further away from Spuway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Had some more south.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, they had found their bodies.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Damn.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it was on November, night teeth when they found their bodies.

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[SPEAKER_06]: It was about twenty miles away in Northwest Johnson County.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Now both Daniel Davis and Ruth Sheldon were shot with a thirty-eight caliber handgun of gun that they never ended up finding.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And Jane Freed had been stabbed twice in the chest.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Jesus Christ.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, they do to you.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, nobody knows, right?

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[SPEAKER_06]: There's there's a lot of theories about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you feel like there's more than one person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One shot and one stabbed sounds to me like there's more than one person.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, there's two shot and one stabbed.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And then the fourth guy was bludgeoned with a chain.

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[SPEAKER_06]: A chain, a chain like object in the point that he was, he basically had died from choking on his own blood.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So, and these people were just scrolled out in this little wooded area, still wearing their uniforms for Berger Chef.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And the thing about Jean Fried was the knife was still stuck in her body.

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[SPEAKER_06]: They had broken the handle, as they couldn't get out.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Now, that's some forceful stabbing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because when the world was at stuck on that, they couldn't get it out.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Logging in a bone.

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[SPEAKER_06]: It could be possibly, but they end up getting the knife blade out of her during the autopsy.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And then didn't show it to the media until the fortieth anniversary of the murders, which was just in, in, in, in, in, in my god.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I think.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So the blade was about four and a half inches.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So it wasn't a pocket knife.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Had to be in the sleeve, but they still have not found any information about the handle.

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[SPEAKER_06]: They just know about the knife.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Sorry.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm just looking through my natural.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here, guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We do it all time.

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[SPEAKER_06]: There was a book that was released in two thousand nineteen about the burger chef murders.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And in the book they said that as various departments converged on the site, some drove through areas that should have been sealed off like the police officers.

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[SPEAKER_06]: They should have been sealed off.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And there were rumors that one of the bodies was moved before the coroner or evidence technician arrived at the scene.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So bodies being moved like they're not doing nothing was usable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the crime scene was completely corrupted.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, this is back when, you know, if someone found out there's a crime scene nearby, let's go get a souvenir.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People still do that now, but they just can't get past the police officers because people still go and go and go.

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[SPEAKER_05]: back in the day when Bonnie and Clyde were killed by police.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Thousands of people would go see the body and they got to the point where they were like cutting off pieces of hair pieces of their ear.

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[SPEAKER_05]: There's one guy tried to cut off Clyde's nose.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I think it was like his tongue like, I want a more but souvenir.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It really is.

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[SPEAKER_06]: If I get ghosts.

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[SPEAKER_06]: There's a guy I follow on YouTube who does like death tours.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And we were talking about James Manfield earlier.

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[SPEAKER_06]: He has the car.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_06]: From the accident.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And he has like a little museum and he'll show it off to people.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And he'll have like little pieces of like certain killers houses or stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm just like, that's just really why.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he also means, I'm into true crime and that kind of stuff, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I wouldn't want.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, something from Jeffrey Dahmer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's where it starts to get into the obsession and sensitiveness of it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like we're especially that idolized worship of some people of these serial killers and people have done horrible things and how they have like

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[SPEAKER_05]: fans that will write to them in prison and like a lot of a mirror to a fan multiple of them well, wasn't one engaged to Charles Manson.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, it's just so weird.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, but again, better help.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So yeah, police just really didn't do a great job on this.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Matter of fact, it was all one of the TV stations in Indianapolis.

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[SPEAKER_06]: They had mentioned that because they interviewed the reporter that did the story, you know, almost forty years ago.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And he had mentioned that because they cleaned up the evidence, they needed pictures for their case.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So they went back and tried to recreate the way the place looked so they can get photos.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, that's a hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even their memories are not going to be that great going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How long was it after that happened?

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[SPEAKER_06]: That was the next couple days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A couple days still even with that fresh in your mind, you're not going to remember everything.

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[SPEAKER_06]: No, exactly not.

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[SPEAKER_05]: One thing I learned about memories recently is that when you think back and try to remember something, like, you know, think of a positive thing from your childhood that you can remember.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You're not actually remembering the memory, you're remembering the last time you remembered it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So every time you remember it, there will be slight alterations and changes things that are forgotten.

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[SPEAKER_05]: So, but, you know, something that happened fifty years ago when you remember it now, it could be a completely different thing than actually happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, you know, that's kind of why I like, I love the Facebook memories because I forget all, I mean, we've done so much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've gone so many places and so many different concerts and that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when I look at those, I'm like, oh, yeah, I forgot that we done that, you know, and it's kind of like you relive it because you have that good memory come back to you and I do until it's like,

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[SPEAKER_05]: a memory of the one picture of your ex.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You forgot to delete on Facebook.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And you're like, I forgot I went to my aggro with that asshole.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Rest in peace.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Well, what I like about is sometimes like some, like sometimes I'll be creative on Facebook.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Say a certain person's birthday comes around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, dear God.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Because a few jokes about her age has come up.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_06]: You know, a couple.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Just a few.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I may have done.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I may have done a series about her history.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, God.

46:59.732 --> 47:03.514
[SPEAKER_06]: And about one being that she owned the original Annabelle doll.

47:03.894 --> 47:04.654
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, God.

47:05.455 --> 47:10.697
[SPEAKER_06]: And or that she had a, how, this is PG, right?

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[SPEAKER_06]: I can't really believe a doll.

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[SPEAKER_06]: for gratification.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_06]: A gratification doll that you could customize with different heads.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, they have those.

47:23.728 --> 47:27.531
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, there was a picture of one online that I found that I put in the post.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, God.

47:28.392 --> 47:36.680
[SPEAKER_06]: And I said, this was, I said, this was Kim's original doll for gratification.

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[SPEAKER_06]: The OG.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah.

47:40.983 --> 47:43.405
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, it was Mac when they were made a stone.

47:43.685 --> 47:49.369
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, I had found all these old pictures from like the early, eighteen hundred's early, nineteen hundred's.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, God.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And just created all these stories about them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, for my birthday when.

47:54.012 --> 47:56.374
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, at four years old, she learned how to play the saw.

47:57.454 --> 47:59.236
[SPEAKER_06]: But this was around the time of the Civil War.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So, things were tough.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, she needed to use the saw for, you know.

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[SPEAKER_05]: It takes you to the battlefield.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_05]: But then she'd play it for him and cheer him up with a leg bleed mouth.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's the screen.

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[SPEAKER_06]: That's the soul he went to see their maker.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you can't help but laugh at it every time it comes up.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Every time stupid things like that come up, I'm like, and I just found out this year was it was ten years ago that I did that.

48:26.508 --> 48:27.809
[SPEAKER_05]: That time goes by so fast.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, shoot.

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[SPEAKER_06]: We were back on the story.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So yeah, the police just kind of botched this up completely.

48:37.216 --> 48:37.917
[SPEAKER_05]: Sounds like it.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And then so because it was a thing that happened across county borders, they had to get the state police involved and also the FBI.

48:48.265 --> 48:54.710
[SPEAKER_06]: And the only thing the state police really did was get some sketches of who the murderers could have been or alleged murderers.

48:55.447 --> 48:57.088
[SPEAKER_01]: How did they even know what to go right?

48:57.328 --> 48:59.009
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, there was a ban.

48:59.029 --> 49:12.038
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, there was a kid that was hanging out next door at the, I want to say it was a dairy queen at the time that had noticed two guys that were hanging out back behind the burgership.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Two guys.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So they were possible suspects.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, they, that's a bearded guy and a clean shaving guy.

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[SPEAKER_06]: That's how they got nicknamed.

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[SPEAKER_05]: If you're gone, if that's all it takes to be a murder suspect, then I've been a murder suspect, like the law hanging out in the alley with a bearded man.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So what the state police did was they got sketches of what the guys looked like from this kid.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I believe he was sixteen years old at this time.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And then they created for some reason, nobody knows why they did this, but a three D play bust of both guys.

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[SPEAKER_06]: that the Indiana State Police still have to this day.

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[SPEAKER_06]: What?

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, you can look them up.

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[SPEAKER_06]: It's just Google Burger Chef murders playbust or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And they are no offense.

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[SPEAKER_06]: They are the most hideous looking playbust I've ever seen in my life.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I gotta see.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So if you guys want to take a peek at that real quick, go for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll try to remember to put some pictures on our Patreon.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, okay.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But they are hideous.

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[SPEAKER_06]: They look like they just look bad, but they still have the clay bust of this day.

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[SPEAKER_06]: In my fact, for the forty-thand anniversary, they actually brought them out for the press to look at it.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Probably like those loose seal ball.

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[SPEAKER_06]: How would you describe it?

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[SPEAKER_06]: Can you kind of pull it up there?

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[SPEAKER_06]: It looks like a kid made them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it kind of does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Their eyes are a little dark glass.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what it looks like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, their eyes are all bugged out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She has a surprise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this looks like something that maybe a junior high or early high school person has done.

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[SPEAKER_05]: That's one of the scenes, some things.

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[SPEAKER_05]: My God.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, that's the bearded guy.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He's stone is hell.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I've never seen eyes so red.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Why'd they give him red?

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[SPEAKER_05]: And then the original pictures would have been in black and white, so it makes it even worse.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_05]: The other guy Jesus.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and they still have those to this very day.

51:16.375 --> 51:21.738
[SPEAKER_05]: They've tried to get rid of them at each time they throw them away, they magically reappear in the locker.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So yeah, Burger Chef had offered a twenty five thousand dollar reward for any of them.

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[SPEAKER_06]: For back then for nineteen seventy eight dollars.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, and another anonymous person donated an additional ten thousand and even like a competitor to them stake and shake was offering money for information about this case.

51:46.245 --> 51:50.530
[SPEAKER_06]: but nobody has ever come up to say, hey, I know this person.

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[SPEAKER_06]: There were stories about a guy in Greenwood, I want to say, that claim that he did it, but as soon as police arrested him, they did a polygraph.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Said he never did anything in the sort just he was just saying it to get I guess Not riz but however cloud Yeah, try to get cloud for it and he took the polygraph said he never did anything in the sort that it was just something he made up and he passed the polygraph and they had nothing to rest him over

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[SPEAKER_05]: So that I still think people like that should be charged with a crime, whatever they want to call it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: And I think that's just deplorable.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Like, oh, no, I killed these people just to be, you know, for five seconds of notoriety.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And then it gets even more interesting because in nineteen eighty four, defective Mel Willsley, Willsley, I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_05]: No, we don't.

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[SPEAKER_05]: We don't get names right.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, we never get names right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's all fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's all good.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So there was a detective in the Marion County Sheriff's Department that got a phone call from a Donald Forster who was already in prison for alleged sex crimes.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Allegedly alleged.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I was just being nice.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But he, he was in the Pilton formatory.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He was by there.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And he was about ready to be transferred to Michigan City.

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[SPEAKER_06]: If I guess if people in Michigan City in their jail knows anything about your what you're in jail for, even if it's alleged sex crimes, they are

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[SPEAKER_06]: horrible like they will treat you like dirt good so he was trying to talk this detective saying that he knew information about the murders if he gives in that information if he doesn't get transferred to Michigan City so the detective was like

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, sure, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_06]: What do you want to tell me?

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[SPEAKER_06]: So he goes into detail about what happened to the bodies that he was part of the murders and that he knew exactly where the bodies were.

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[SPEAKER_06]: He claimed he was the one that shot both Daniel Davis and Bruce Shelton.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I thought that pictures of them to not one looks he looked like a little kid.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: They were all like teenage except for one of them.

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[SPEAKER_06]: He said that he he knew about parts of the murder.

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[SPEAKER_06]: It wasn't publicized.

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[SPEAKER_06]: He knew about the knife handle.

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[SPEAKER_06]: He knew about the position of the bodies.

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[SPEAKER_06]: He even knew, he said that the story was that Freight's brother was dealing in drugs and that they were coming to the store to scare Freight to tell her he better give us our money or our drugs or else

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[SPEAKER_06]: But since she knew who it was, things went really botched.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Because if you look at the original, when the police came to the store, like, not a lot of money was stolen.

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[SPEAKER_06]: There was only five hundred and eighty one dollars.

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[SPEAKER_06]: There was still a hundred dollars in the cash register.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So they took all the money.

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[SPEAKER_06]: No, they didn't take all the money.

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[SPEAKER_06]: They were just like, oh, well, we have to make it look like a robbery.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Or not good.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But we have to make it look like a robbery.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So he and some other associates were trying to get her brother to pay the money that was owed for the drugs.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Flemons had intervened to protect free because they were going to attack her.

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[SPEAKER_06]: He got in their way and was like, no, you're not going to attack her and end up being a big fight that broke out.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So then oriented Donald Forster's story, he was living around the areas where the murders occurred and where the bodies were being dumped up.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So he knew exactly what's going on.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And he also said that his wife at the time, you know, such an exciting story.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I had all that sugar.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Now I'm crashing.

55:50.950 --> 56:00.313
[SPEAKER_06]: but he had told them that him and his wife had actually gone back out to the crime scene, picked up the thirty-eight caliber shells, took him home, flushed him down the toilet.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Jesus.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So the police had actually get a warrant to search the septic tank and go through eight years of raw sewage, to find, you know, it's made to me even think that they could find it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's sick of the reactor down there.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I have no idea, but they did end up finding some shells.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And his ex-wife even admitted, yeah, that's exactly what happened.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So they had that.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And then all the signs pointed that he, okay, this possibly was our guy.

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[SPEAKER_06]: He was probably the clean shaving guy from this is that somebody inside the jail leaked it out to the press.

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[SPEAKER_06]: to what was going on.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And so because of that, Forster didn't say another word.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And he said everything he said was not true.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Backpettled the whole deal.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And so he'd end up not being charged with it.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And he end up dying in prison from cancer in two thousand six.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, she had to leave.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was, he was part of it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: He had to be part of it, especially to know about about the knife and the handle break.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, because that handle part was never, never released to the public.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Don't worry, years until forty years later, when they had their big press conference about it.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Well, he was in jail all right, you know, for not for that crime, but for some reason they're already, but

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[SPEAKER_06]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So ever since then, there's been nobody coming up with information that they still have like binders upon binders upon binders of information about the crime, no one's ever come up to admitted or who knows who did it.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Because any possible suspect since then that they've tried to come up with has died.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, so it's the curse of the burger chef pretty much and Unfortunately with the way that the the crime scene was handled and Black of information.

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[SPEAKER_06]: It's become one of the most unsolved crimes in Indiana history I can't believe I've never heard of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've talked about it before and I've talked about doing it before

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when I asked Dave to come on, he asked me, he says, if you guys done the burger chef, when I'm like, no, I've talked about it, but I never had.

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[SPEAKER_06]: So I still couldn't see it.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Now, there's been two documentaries about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there was also, isn't there one out now?

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[SPEAKER_06]: There's two out now.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, there's two out now.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, there was the book in twenty nineteen, which is still available.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And then there was a investigation discovery show about it called murders at the burger chef at the burger chef.

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[SPEAKER_06]: I think it's called.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Man, since he started though, all I can think of is a nice bass speaker.

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[SPEAKER_06]: It's called murders at the burger joint and that's on HBO Max.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And then they did a movie a couple years ago that actually went into the movie theaters.

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[SPEAKER_06]: But that one I believe is on Hulu.

58:58.961 --> 59:01.623
[SPEAKER_06]: Disney plus Hulu called the Speedway murders.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, I've seen that.

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[SPEAKER_06]: That's an interesting one because they claim it's a documentary, but it's a movie.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And you actually get the point from the four kids.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_06]: About this is what happened.

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[SPEAKER_06]: There's this one theory that happened.

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[SPEAKER_06]: There's another theory that happened.

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[SPEAKER_06]: And I believe there was somebody else in that movie that they interview that claims that he also was part of the murders.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But they never thought.

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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, but they never caught him.

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[SPEAKER_06]: It's a really interesting movie.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I've ever let him take you to a second location.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_05]: Never ever.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'll scratch the rise up where they take me to a second location.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You might as well kill me here.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You ain't making it out.

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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm scared if you try to take me out.

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[SPEAKER_05]: If I know what, especially if I know I'm not making it out alive,

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[SPEAKER_05]: Ooh, you ain't either honey.

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[SPEAKER_05]: You ain't either.

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[SPEAKER_05]: In my hurt me a little bit, but it's gonna hurt you more.

01:00:01.783 --> 01:00:03.264
[SPEAKER_05]: They'll find a center locked dead.

01:00:04.706 --> 01:00:06.187
[SPEAKER_05]: He fought to the very end.

01:00:06.547 --> 01:00:08.188
[SPEAKER_05]: He had a piece of his ear in his mouth.

01:00:08.429 --> 01:00:09.189
[SPEAKER_05]: He got soaked on it.

01:00:10.730 --> 01:00:11.211
[SPEAKER_05]: I would.

01:00:11.271 --> 01:00:12.232
[SPEAKER_01]: How was it?

01:00:12.252 --> 01:00:13.432
[SPEAKER_01]: You want to say crazy?

01:00:14.954 --> 01:00:16.075
[SPEAKER_01]: I got crazy for you.

01:00:16.275 --> 01:00:16.595
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:00:16.855 --> 01:00:19.017
[SPEAKER_05]: I got here as a trauma to release you.

01:00:19.037 --> 01:00:19.697
[SPEAKER_05]: We're going.

01:00:22.172 --> 01:00:27.754
[SPEAKER_05]: There's an idea for a movie, someone who was taken by a killer who turns out to be the killer.

01:00:28.395 --> 01:00:31.276
[SPEAKER_06]: They didn't know until they had no other option.

01:00:32.957 --> 01:00:35.398
[SPEAKER_06]: And the killer was like, wait, am I supposed to kill any of you or are you killing?

01:00:35.418 --> 01:00:36.078
[SPEAKER_06]: And now I'm killing you.

01:00:36.138 --> 01:00:36.738
[SPEAKER_06]: He can't, kidnapped him.

01:00:36.758 --> 01:00:38.459
[SPEAKER_05]: Kidnapped me to kill me and now I'm hunting him in the woods.

01:00:38.479 --> 01:00:38.879
[SPEAKER_05]: Who's winning now?

01:00:38.899 --> 01:00:40.400
[SPEAKER_05]: That would actually be an interesting move.

01:00:40.440 --> 01:00:40.780
[SPEAKER_05]: I'd watch it.

01:00:40.800 --> 01:00:41.160
[SPEAKER_05]: I'd watch it.

01:00:41.180 --> 01:00:41.420
[SPEAKER_05]: I'd watch it.

01:00:41.440 --> 01:00:41.941
[SPEAKER_05]: I'd watch it.

01:00:41.961 --> 01:00:42.261
[SPEAKER_05]: I'd watch it.

01:00:42.281 --> 01:00:42.581
[SPEAKER_05]: I'd watch it.

01:00:42.601 --> 01:00:42.841
[SPEAKER_05]: I'd watch it.

01:00:42.861 --> 01:00:43.141
[SPEAKER_05]: I'd watch it.

01:00:43.181 --> 01:00:43.421
[SPEAKER_05]: I'd watch it.

01:00:43.441 --> 01:00:43.781
[SPEAKER_05]: I'd watch it.

01:00:43.801 --> 01:00:45.022
[SPEAKER_05]: I'd watch it.

01:00:45.062 --> 01:00:45.342
[SPEAKER_06]: I'd watch it.

01:00:45.362 --> 01:00:45.622
[SPEAKER_06]: I'd watch it.

01:00:45.642 --> 01:00:45.882
[SPEAKER_06]: I'd watch it.

01:00:45.902 --> 01:00:46.183
[SPEAKER_06]: I'd watch it.

01:00:46.203 --> 01:00:46.503
[SPEAKER_06]: I'd watch it.

01:00:46.543 --> 01:00:46.803
[SPEAKER_04]: I'd watch it.

01:00:46.823 --> 01:00:47.063
[SPEAKER_06]: I'd watch it.

01:00:47.083 --> 01:00:47.343
[SPEAKER_05]: I'd watch it.

01:00:47.363 --> 01:00:47.603
[SPEAKER_06]: I'd watch it.

01:00:47.623 --> 01:00:47.903
[SPEAKER_04]: I'd watch it.

01:00:47.923 --> 01:00:48.163
[SPEAKER_06]: I'd watch it.

01:00:48.183 --> 01:00:48.604
[SPEAKER_06]: I'd watch it.

01:00:48.624 --> 01:00:48.884
[SPEAKER_06]: I'd watch it.

01:00:48.904 --> 01:00:49.344
[SPEAKER_06]: I'd watch it.

01:00:49.863 --> 01:00:51.524
[SPEAKER_05]: You thought you had me, didn't ya?

01:00:51.584 --> 01:00:55.666
[SPEAKER_05]: You saw all this, and you thought, ooh, I'm a feminine gay man, he's gonna be easy.

01:00:55.966 --> 01:00:58.348
[SPEAKER_05]: Hell no, we just skin catfish growing up.

01:00:58.708 --> 01:00:59.848
[SPEAKER_05]: Come on, gross.

01:01:00.369 --> 01:01:05.111
[SPEAKER_05]: We know you grapple, he's denailed their head dipping the table and peel it.

01:01:05.591 --> 01:01:06.352
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like catfish.

01:01:06.892 --> 01:01:08.394
[SPEAKER_01]: That's my fish, I'll eat.

01:01:09.114 --> 01:01:09.475
[SPEAKER_05]: Really?

01:01:09.735 --> 01:01:12.358
[SPEAKER_05]: I'll eat catfish in salmon mostly.

01:01:12.538 --> 01:01:13.138
[SPEAKER_00]: I like salmon.

01:01:13.219 --> 01:01:15.140
[SPEAKER_05]: I like, what's that white fish?

01:01:15.160 --> 01:01:16.582
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a lot bigger.

01:01:16.622 --> 01:01:18.204
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I don't care for the lobby.

01:01:18.344 --> 01:01:19.685
[SPEAKER_05]: It's just such an ugly fish.

01:01:19.705 --> 01:01:20.586
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't like eating it.

01:01:20.726 --> 01:01:21.827
[SPEAKER_05]: It's such an ugly fish.

01:01:22.007 --> 01:01:22.508
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm like, ooh.

01:01:22.708 --> 01:01:23.989
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't care what it looks like.

01:01:24.129 --> 01:01:25.170
[SPEAKER_05]: I do.

01:01:25.330 --> 01:01:25.951
[SPEAKER_05]: It's flat.

01:01:26.031 --> 01:01:28.834
[SPEAKER_05]: It's eyes and mouth are all on one side of its face.

01:01:28.914 --> 01:01:35.019
[SPEAKER_05]: Like some weird like it looks like something that would be like water that's bad for you.

01:01:35.119 --> 01:01:37.021
[SPEAKER_05]: Like got some chemical mutation.

01:01:37.041 --> 01:01:38.663
[SPEAKER_01]: And you think that can't fish or pretty?

01:01:39.043 --> 01:01:41.385
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, nobody at least their faces are symmetrical.

01:01:41.545 --> 01:01:42.867
[SPEAKER_05]: You know where they're supposed to.

01:01:43.067 --> 01:01:43.767
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my goodness.

01:01:45.169 --> 01:01:46.229
[SPEAKER_05]: So you mean like the white river?

01:01:46.870 --> 01:01:47.890
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I wouldn't even know that.

01:01:48.311 --> 01:01:49.432
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I wouldn't even know that.

01:01:49.732 --> 01:01:56.096
[SPEAKER_05]: I've only seen people eat fish out of the white river once when I was at a friends when she went to Ball State.

01:01:56.597 --> 01:02:08.725
[SPEAKER_05]: There were some people from another country who lived in her same apartment building and in their country it was safe to fish in the local river and eat what was out of that river.

01:02:08.826 --> 01:02:10.647
[SPEAKER_05]: They had a lot cleaner water than

01:02:11.188 --> 01:02:13.010
[SPEAKER_05]: Muncing Indiana did it at the time.

01:02:13.631 --> 01:02:16.054
[SPEAKER_05]: And we saw him leave to go fishing.

01:02:16.094 --> 01:02:17.857
[SPEAKER_05]: If you are a slater, we were still outside.

01:02:17.917 --> 01:02:22.002
[SPEAKER_05]: They came back with a line full of freshly caught fish.

01:02:22.303 --> 01:02:25.167
[SPEAKER_05]: We were all doing with that.

01:02:25.187 --> 01:02:27.049
[SPEAKER_05]: They were like, oh, we're gonna have dinner.

01:02:28.411 --> 01:02:45.883
[SPEAKER_05]: No, you don't want to eat that you might as well go suck on a turd because that's exactly what that is gonna be like no I'm like we don't you know other places you might have you know some parasites that your body if you eat it enough your body can acclimate too, but

01:02:46.748 --> 01:02:49.210
[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, we got some, we're some dokey and dokey.

01:02:49.470 --> 01:02:50.391
[SPEAKER_04]: A lot of dokey.

01:02:50.631 --> 01:02:51.892
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, I boops in that water.

01:02:52.072 --> 01:02:53.913
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, gross.

01:02:54.253 --> 01:02:55.494
[SPEAKER_05]: Now that's a lot cleaner now.

01:02:55.974 --> 01:03:02.258
[SPEAKER_05]: They have in the past like ten years or so made a lot of efforts to clean up the white, what water river.

01:03:03.039 --> 01:03:14.546
[SPEAKER_05]: And it shows that a lot of river otters, American bald eagles, a lot of wildlife that had been extinct in the white river in that area have now returned.

01:03:14.978 --> 01:03:17.399
[SPEAKER_01]: Have you seen that the armadillos that come into it?

01:03:17.419 --> 01:03:21.021
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I saved it to remind myself, because I was so excited.

01:03:21.041 --> 01:03:24.442
[SPEAKER_05]: They're all the way up and getting closer to once in a rush.

01:03:24.702 --> 01:03:27.744
[SPEAKER_05]: They monitored like breeding pairs.

01:03:27.864 --> 01:03:30.905
[SPEAKER_05]: And yeah, they've been out of our state.

01:03:31.545 --> 01:03:37.930
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't know if they've ever been native to Indiana, but they're with, you know, it's getting warmer here, so they can survive.

01:03:39.031 --> 01:03:40.432
[SPEAKER_05]: Other so cute, but don't touch them.

01:03:40.792 --> 01:03:45.856
[SPEAKER_05]: They're one of the few animals humans and armadillos can carry leprosy.

01:03:46.997 --> 01:03:51.521
[SPEAKER_05]: So if you ever see dead or alive, do not touch an armadillo because you could get leprosy.

01:03:51.741 --> 01:03:58.286
[SPEAKER_01]: He could really, you know, almost take you on useless trivia because he's always got some kind of useless trivia.

01:03:58.606 --> 01:04:04.488
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't remember names, but you bring up a random topic and I'm like, oh, did you know?

01:04:04.508 --> 01:04:08.670
[SPEAKER_05]: Sort of like the cliff Cleveland of the show.

01:04:08.710 --> 01:04:09.010
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

01:04:10.471 --> 01:04:10.871
[SPEAKER_05]: I love it.

01:04:10.991 --> 01:04:15.293
[SPEAKER_05]: Well, I've been watching a British show that I've never heard of and recently came across

01:04:15.653 --> 01:04:20.378
[SPEAKER_05]: and all of our British listeners will, I'm sure now QI, quite interesting.

01:04:22.961 --> 01:04:26.765
[SPEAKER_05]: I've seen the older ones with the male host and the newer ones with the host Sandy.

01:04:26.826 --> 01:04:27.626
[SPEAKER_05]: I love both of them.

01:04:28.287 --> 01:04:35.315
[SPEAKER_05]: They got a host and usually comedians as guests like four guests in the host and the host will like

01:04:35.627 --> 01:04:49.970
[SPEAKER_05]: So did you know, blah, blah, fun fact, interesting subject and you know, the comedians will say something funny and they have conversations just it's very simple like they get kind of like whose line is that the points don't count that they still give them to you anyway.

01:04:50.411 --> 01:04:53.911
[SPEAKER_05]: Just I love that I've been fall on a sleep to it every night for like two weeks.

01:04:53.991 --> 01:04:56.092
[SPEAKER_01]: David, I actually went and seen it alive.

01:04:57.238 --> 01:04:58.858
[SPEAKER_01]: live of whose line is it anyway.

01:04:58.878 --> 01:05:01.739
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I saw there are going to be in Fort Wayne somewhere.

01:05:01.759 --> 01:05:03.259
[SPEAKER_05]: And once even we see them.

01:05:03.580 --> 01:05:05.560
[SPEAKER_05]: I like the original one.

01:05:05.640 --> 01:05:07.240
[SPEAKER_05]: The newer one with IE shen stuff.

01:05:07.340 --> 01:05:07.901
[SPEAKER_05]: It's funny.

01:05:07.981 --> 01:05:14.742
[SPEAKER_05]: I've seen a couple, but it's not as funny as when back with the four original people in Drew.

01:05:14.762 --> 01:05:17.323
[SPEAKER_05]: It was every once in a while.

01:05:17.383 --> 01:05:21.064
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll get clips of it on on my phone or whatever and every once in a while.

01:05:21.104 --> 01:05:25.905
[SPEAKER_01]: There'll be a clip that I watch at least twenty times and just laugh my ass out.

01:05:26.025 --> 01:05:26.685
[SPEAKER_05]: I love they're just

01:05:27.805 --> 01:05:29.106
[SPEAKER_05]: I'd love to do something like that.

01:05:29.186 --> 01:05:31.227
[SPEAKER_06]: Well, you know, that was originally a British show as well.

01:05:31.567 --> 01:05:31.987
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, really?

01:05:32.087 --> 01:05:32.267
[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah.

01:05:32.407 --> 01:05:32.928
[SPEAKER_05]: What is it?

01:05:33.088 --> 01:05:34.228
[SPEAKER_05]: What is it?

01:05:34.348 --> 01:05:48.915
[SPEAKER_06]: Clive Anderson hosted it and it was Ryan Styles and Colin Mockery and Greg Prooops and usually another British person and it was all on Channel Four and Evelyn and then it came to the United States because of Drew Carey.

01:05:49.355 --> 01:05:57.262
[SPEAKER_06]: And, in fact, the show that we went and saw at Emmons in Muncie, their special guest star was Drew Carey.

01:05:57.782 --> 01:06:00.404
[SPEAKER_06]: And it was just after he left and started doing prices right.

01:06:01.265 --> 01:06:02.666
[SPEAKER_06]: So... I forgot about that.

01:06:02.706 --> 01:06:02.966
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:06:03.407 --> 01:06:03.667
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.

01:06:03.847 --> 01:06:04.427
[SPEAKER_01]: Crazy.

01:06:04.507 --> 01:06:06.409
[SPEAKER_01]: We were all stunned when he showed up there.

01:06:06.729 --> 01:06:07.010
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

01:06:07.770 --> 01:06:08.891
[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody knew he was going to be here.

01:06:08.911 --> 01:06:08.971
[SPEAKER_01]: No.

01:06:09.311 --> 01:06:10.873
[SPEAKER_05]: He was just... I felt like you would have known.

01:06:10.893 --> 01:06:13.215
[SPEAKER_05]: You could have dressed up like that secretary lady, I can't.

01:06:14.155 --> 01:06:14.476
[SPEAKER_01]: Me, me.

01:06:14.596 --> 01:06:14.876
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, me.

01:06:16.557 --> 01:06:17.377
[SPEAKER_01]: I love that shit.

01:06:17.397 --> 01:06:25.860
[SPEAKER_05]: It was so hard when I put her in drag not because she didn't see what her makeup looked like till I was finished and oh I I'm so sorry.

01:06:26.101 --> 01:06:30.882
[SPEAKER_06]: I laughed so hard when I saw that picture the first time because I was not him.

01:06:31.142 --> 01:06:31.803
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh, yeah.

01:06:31.863 --> 01:06:32.783
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I browsed.

01:06:32.883 --> 01:06:35.484
[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah, I'm like who the hell is this?

01:06:35.504 --> 01:06:37.064
[SPEAKER_06]: And then I get to the final picture and I'm just like

01:06:42.094 --> 01:06:42.695
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, God.

01:06:42.995 --> 01:06:43.776
[SPEAKER_06]: That's good.

01:06:43.916 --> 01:06:49.240
[SPEAKER_01]: Afterwards, after we done that, I don't remember if I told you or not, but I sent the pictures to my mom.

01:06:49.721 --> 01:06:51.422
[SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, who's that?

01:06:51.442 --> 01:06:54.425
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, she shows them to my dad.

01:06:54.966 --> 01:06:58.228
[SPEAKER_01]: And that says, well, that's Kimmy Dawn, because that's what he calls me.

01:06:58.689 --> 01:07:00.530
[SPEAKER_01]: And she's like, no, it's not.

01:07:00.631 --> 01:07:01.772
[SPEAKER_01]: And then she looks and she's like,

01:07:02.552 --> 01:07:03.893
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, it is her.

01:07:03.913 --> 01:07:05.953
[SPEAKER_01]: She can believe it.

01:07:05.973 --> 01:07:07.454
[SPEAKER_05]: That face tape works wanders.

01:07:07.494 --> 01:07:09.215
[SPEAKER_01]: She says, she says, I don't like it.

01:07:09.555 --> 01:07:10.175
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I get it.

01:07:10.335 --> 01:07:11.576
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I get it.

01:07:12.316 --> 01:07:13.456
[SPEAKER_06]: Oh, it was so fun.

01:07:13.556 --> 01:07:16.698
[SPEAKER_06]: I even commented on it because she had posted it as her Facebook picture.

01:07:17.978 --> 01:07:18.979
[SPEAKER_06]: Peg Bundy is that you?

01:07:19.319 --> 01:07:19.579
[SPEAKER_06]: Right.

01:07:19.599 --> 01:07:21.140
[SPEAKER_05]: I love Peg.

01:07:21.580 --> 01:07:32.745
[SPEAKER_05]: That's one of my favorite things about drag is it literally feels like you get a kind of step out of your own self for the while and it's fun to play a character of a completely different person.

01:07:32.885 --> 01:07:35.366
[SPEAKER_01]: I was really thinking about letting my hair grow.

01:07:35.787 --> 01:07:41.650
[SPEAKER_01]: But I know if I let my hair grow is it was not going to look like because I like the down part of it, you know, that wig.

01:07:41.690 --> 01:07:42.410
[SPEAKER_01]: It was really pretty.

01:07:42.810 --> 01:07:48.455
[SPEAKER_01]: I'd help you, but I don't, my hair would never, ever look like that.

01:07:48.836 --> 01:07:49.596
[SPEAKER_05]: I'd show you how.

01:07:50.757 --> 01:07:51.658
[SPEAKER_05]: I got my friend Brittany.

01:07:51.698 --> 01:07:57.384
[SPEAKER_05]: She had cut her hair short, not long after she had her kid lyric, and you know, that was fourteen years ago.

01:07:57.484 --> 01:08:05.531
[SPEAKER_05]: And since then, we've had a long process of getting, I mean, she has hair, it's down prior to her belly button now or so, but it's

01:08:06.672 --> 01:08:09.355
[SPEAKER_05]: It's important when you grow hair out to grow it out with healthy.

01:08:09.375 --> 01:08:10.816
[SPEAKER_05]: There's a lot of girls though.

01:08:11.096 --> 01:08:15.000
[SPEAKER_05]: Look at my long hair and about six to eight inches as dried crispy hay.

01:08:15.180 --> 01:08:15.380
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:08:16.521 --> 01:08:17.902
[SPEAKER_05]: It's not supposed to be like that.

01:08:18.903 --> 01:08:22.106
[SPEAKER_01]: I done really good for a long time and then I just got a haircut on Saturday.

01:08:23.007 --> 01:08:23.427
[SPEAKER_01]: yesterday.

01:08:24.027 --> 01:08:26.428
[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, I just can't take it any longer.

01:08:26.448 --> 01:08:28.769
[SPEAKER_01]: I can only take it to for so long.

01:08:28.809 --> 01:08:30.329
[SPEAKER_01]: And then it's like, I get that's off of me.

01:08:30.409 --> 01:08:31.170
[SPEAKER_05]: I get that way.

01:08:31.350 --> 01:08:37.972
[SPEAKER_05]: I want to grow mine out while it's still there for, you know, just one more time for if it goes away.

01:08:38.212 --> 01:08:39.872
[SPEAKER_05]: But it gets a little about an inch.

01:08:39.892 --> 01:08:41.853
[SPEAKER_05]: And I'm like, did you see them gray?

01:08:41.873 --> 01:08:42.913
[SPEAKER_05]: Did you get a haircut?

01:08:43.754 --> 01:08:44.834
[SPEAKER_01]: No, I got them all cut.

01:08:45.014 --> 01:08:45.954
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, thank God.

01:08:47.155 --> 01:08:47.655
[SPEAKER_05]: Twenty dollars.

01:08:48.922 --> 01:08:49.402
[SPEAKER_05]: pretty much.

01:08:49.602 --> 01:08:56.204
[SPEAKER_05]: I had a no lie that's what it's like cutting old men who won't admit that they're bald's hair.

01:08:56.744 --> 01:09:09.108
[SPEAKER_05]: They get root, not all of them, but some of them, you know, have they'll be bald on like ever except for the sides and they'll have a little patch on front that has just a few hairs and you're a mad if you take your scissors and cut them.

01:09:09.128 --> 01:09:10.708
[SPEAKER_04]: They're like, that was my bangs.

01:09:14.328 --> 01:09:16.009
[SPEAKER_05]: Don't bullshit with me.

01:09:16.029 --> 01:09:17.570
[SPEAKER_01]: Your hair's not getting thin, is it?

01:09:17.830 --> 01:09:18.451
[SPEAKER_05]: No, no.

01:09:18.751 --> 01:09:20.432
[SPEAKER_01]: I was just saying I think Shane's got that.

01:09:20.452 --> 01:09:27.017
[SPEAKER_05]: I've had receding as I've gotten older, but not like my hair's still like thick.

01:09:27.177 --> 01:09:30.779
[SPEAKER_05]: I don't have the bald spot in the back that runs in my family.

01:09:30.799 --> 01:09:31.520
[SPEAKER_05]: Which?

01:09:31.540 --> 01:09:32.400
[SPEAKER_01]: Like somebody else.

01:09:32.560 --> 01:09:33.121
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:09:33.401 --> 01:09:34.502
[SPEAKER_05]: Which that comes in like.

01:09:35.363 --> 01:09:36.524
[SPEAKER_05]: You're early twenties.

01:09:36.664 --> 01:09:47.538
[SPEAKER_05]: So I knew by like twenty five that I had my dad's hair, which has looked, you know, he receded a little bit, but he's sixty something so has a whole head of hair.

01:09:48.298 --> 01:09:52.343
[SPEAKER_05]: It's a wide as the driven snow, which I'll take white hair over gray.

01:09:53.144 --> 01:10:14.763
[SPEAKER_05]: Which I might want my turn and I it's turning ginger and then it's turning white like that's my pigment fades because I got a lot of red undertones in my beard's ginger That's also why you won't see a beard on me because I So far there's no gray in it, but you know every time you grow it out That's a man when you get older one day you're gonna grow it out.

01:10:14.783 --> 01:10:17.285
[SPEAKER_05]: There's gonna be gray patches and I don't want to see that

01:10:20.133 --> 01:10:20.894
[SPEAKER_01]: every once in a while.

01:10:20.974 --> 01:10:32.947
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't have a ton of gray, but every once in a while I'll be standing in the bathroom and I wash my hands and I'll look up and I'm like, there's this one white, very shiny hair right in front.

01:10:32.988 --> 01:10:33.208
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like,

01:10:34.362 --> 01:10:36.163
[SPEAKER_05]: I just wish I could wake up to white hair.

01:10:36.543 --> 01:10:41.546
[SPEAKER_05]: You know, like in movies and stuff and people like get so scared, the hair instantly turns white, do that.

01:10:41.826 --> 01:10:44.027
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, yeah, that's what happened to me.

01:10:44.287 --> 01:10:48.969
[SPEAKER_06]: Like, I woke up on my thirty-second birthday and my sides were already turning white.

01:10:49.790 --> 01:10:51.030
[SPEAKER_06]: So I just learned to accept it.

01:10:51.911 --> 01:10:59.234
[SPEAKER_05]: Even in my young twenties, I would purposely bleach and dye my hair to look silver or gray or white.

01:10:59.654 --> 01:11:02.636
[SPEAKER_05]: So I'm like, I've always wanted, I think great, you know, white hair is

01:11:03.376 --> 01:11:10.078
[SPEAKER_05]: cool again like it makes you look like witchy and like you know something a little bit maybe.

01:11:10.398 --> 01:11:15.619
[SPEAKER_05]: Oh mine's from being in hell for eight.

01:11:15.639 --> 01:11:30.203
[SPEAKER_05]: I just I don't like the gradual you know every time you look in the mirror you're like oh another one over here I got one up front now and it's my normal hairs you know straight and kept in this one white hairs like

01:11:30.663 --> 01:11:31.044
[SPEAKER_05]: Kinky.

01:11:31.624 --> 01:11:37.189
[SPEAKER_05]: And it goes like, right here, I'll be in driving and I'm like, what the hell is that?

01:11:37.249 --> 01:11:39.191
[SPEAKER_05]: Or I'm getting white nose hairs.

01:11:40.252 --> 01:11:41.934
[SPEAKER_05]: I'm bad at like, I just pull them.

01:11:42.694 --> 01:11:44.116
[SPEAKER_01]: How do you keep a hold of them?

01:11:44.136 --> 01:11:45.937
[SPEAKER_01]: I try to pull my fingernails.

01:11:45.977 --> 01:11:47.138
[SPEAKER_05]: I just rip them out.

01:11:47.779 --> 01:11:50.281
[SPEAKER_05]: I do it sometimes in public to show dominance over people.

01:11:51.002 --> 01:11:56.087
[SPEAKER_05]: I do it not a tear or a flinch comes out of my eye and I'm like, you think you could hurt me?

01:11:59.707 --> 01:12:00.587
[SPEAKER_05]: He lost it.

01:12:02.508 --> 01:12:03.748
[SPEAKER_04]: I think we'd better move on to math.

01:12:03.788 --> 01:12:05.549
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, it's been an hour and sixteen minutes.

01:12:05.629 --> 01:12:06.469
[SPEAKER_04]: We're always small.

01:12:06.529 --> 01:12:06.849
[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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