143: The Belmez Faces: Spain's Haunted Kitchen Floor Mystery

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have the time worth stuck into my head, I keep seeing that go on now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have the warmth?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Time what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's time what?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Have you never seen Rocky Horopict yourself?

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, no.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Neither one of you have.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I've never seen it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Preferred?

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[SPEAKER_04]: I've never seen it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've never seen it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've never seen it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've never seen it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've never seen it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is too much singing for me.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It is definitely different.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It is a different.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like movie.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Both.

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[SPEAKER_04]: feel of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I've seen clips of it, Dr. Franken further.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then there's a man in tight gold shorts, other than that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's too much singing for me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I couldn't do it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You might enjoy it, Shane.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, I thought it's going to be a wall bash again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I feel like every Halloween it's everywhere.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's for some reason that the Halloween move is it?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, well, it's because of it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So originally when it came out in the 70s, it was a huge flop.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It did not do well at the box office at all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Who's the actress Susan Srandon?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Redheaded, big eyes, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so it was a flop when it was originally in theaters.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And then later on in the 80s, it became a cult classic.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And it ran in theaters for years and years and years consecutively, because people would go and watch it and they would dress up.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And there was different...

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[SPEAKER_04]: different like there's a scene in the very beginning of it where there's a wedding and so people would take rice and throw rice in different spots they would do different things the audience would do different things so it lasted forever.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I never went to the theater to see it but I never seen it until I don't know maybe 10 years ago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know not a lot of gay guys that play the

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[SPEAKER_02]: Dr. Frankenferter are the slutty fish nets and boostier.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I seen a, that movie is 50 years old.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, they came out in September 26th.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so it's 50 years old now.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I seen an interview that they had done with temporary, which is the guy that played Dr. Frankenferter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was it too.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, and he's very, I don't, I'm not sure if he's still alive or not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just saw the other day on his Instagram, he personally doesn't do his Instagram.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He has people for it, but he had to have a message because there's been, you know, like most celebrities, there's fake accounts that are asking people for money.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He had to go on and give a message that this is my only account.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would not ask people for money.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I know Tim Curry more from Furn Gauly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was smell good the villain in that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Furn Gauly, you never seen Furn Gauly?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Oh, I have but it's been a really long time ago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was very implemental in my flu season growing up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It kind of started my like, nature is alive and aware.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A bug's life didn't do that in hands.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Furn Gauly was before that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, what's true?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I also see been in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, he was in a movie, a fantasy movie with Tom Cruise in the 80s.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I cannot remember what it's called, but Tim played like, it looked like the devil.

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[SPEAKER_02]: like essentially the devil, but he wasn't the devil.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was like just a demon monster, but he used red big horns, hooves on his feet, new king gone locked.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember watching that at Gremel's when I was younger and

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[SPEAKER_02]: like holding onto the remote like it was like pornography because it had oh there's the the devils and if I'm find out they're watching a unit if they see motion that's going to get whipped.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it like any noise change channel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He sent him a demonic stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh god there's a devil watching something for Biden.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We haven't even had

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was just curious what else that he was in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ma.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jogsig love.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I picked up this really nice coaster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was in Garden of the Gods.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, pretty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I thought so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sure shiny.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What is it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: A coaster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She knows she can't do two things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or she can barely do one thing I want.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, let's see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you just not turned your phone on?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's taking so long?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Listen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Starting to agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my gosh.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Gosh.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was in a Garfield movie.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, that's fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: didn't realize how many he was in an episode of Scooby-Doo, in 2008, the Goblin King, home alone.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's been on a lot of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of like kid stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He was in Titanic?

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[SPEAKER_03]: What did he play in Titanic?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, he played Simon interesting.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Who knew?

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[SPEAKER_04]: I had no idea he was in thought.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was in the 1982 A&E, but it'll orphan any, I remember from that one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was one of the bad guys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I barely remember the movie.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just do because as a girl burnets role in that one, just stuck with me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, y'all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A little girl.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She was like a girl.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Girls.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the guy who played Annie's new dad was attractive.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember thinking that as a young boy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A little girl.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Can you be my daddy?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, Kim, why don't you go ahead and enlighten Josh about your internet troubles?

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[SPEAKER_04]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So and you know Josh has started on our drive back on our drive back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we covered this on our last episode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They came and put new telephone poles in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They cut through your line.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They said it would be around a week until you got it reconnected.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was over two weeks before they finally come and done it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And it wasn't the telephone company that done it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It was spectrum that done it because spectrum was pulling fiber lines in there the ones that shot the anchor in the ground.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They sound like they did it on purpose to make customers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But during that time that Kim was in the car and we're driving back,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know how just sometimes older people get scammed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like that's what happened to Kim, where she didn't know what she was crying to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know how small her little house is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's teeny tiny.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Or they like epsilon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they sent her, she agreed to pay $10 extra a month.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they sent her two of those, like, huh, for what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wireless routers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can put throughout your home.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They gave me the first month free.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But still, you don't need to know, I don't really need it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But no, I don't.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was just, number one, I was tired.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We were driving back from Colorado.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I did not want to deal with this while I was sitting in the car.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And because I was the one that originally reported that it was an outage.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So the ticket that was done for it was done in my name.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, then we found out that they were going to have to dig it up and redo the thing, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I got a text message on Thursday saying, hey, you're internet's back on and I'm like, yay!

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I pack all my stuff up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's been going to Emily's.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I've been going to Emily's.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I packed all my stuff up and went home so that I could work and I still had no internet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now the issue, also Josh, is because she agreed for these two new units, so she wasn't sure if she didn't have an internet because she needed to activate it, but the best part is is Kim gets home right now because Kim hasn't had internet, she's been using her phone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we went on a trip, so she used some data there too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But she was out of data, could not use it on her phone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, the instructions are like, scan the QR code and it will download the app.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she couldn't go on the app at all.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's what that great big long message was that I sent you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And that you read.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I read the first sentence.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyway, and the first sentence was like I can't I'm so mad because I can't get on the internet So I was like, oh, so she can't do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But anyway, so she couldn't get this new thing set up because she didn't have an internet And so she was gonna have her daughter come over a couple days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no, I lost track of what she was saying

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the next morning I wake up a like six o'clock in the morning and I'm getting ready and I sent her a text And I'm like, wake your ass up because I'm coming over because I already know I'm gonna have to come over and fix your internet Because just like I got where our grandma used to have me come over and fix her powder all the time and I thought when she died I was no longer an IT person and evidently grandma came over here So I get to her house and Kim has the old router

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[SPEAKER_00]: on a desk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She has the two new units and all these power cords and these lines.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, Kim, you should not have agreed to upgrade anything until you get your ship fixed because now we're in this pickle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, got more to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Kim lives in the most worst spot in the world because the only service you can ever get is from Verizon and then you still are in it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So things slow, you can't do anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was such a headache, and then I'm communicating with Frontier and it was a whole mess.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was there all day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At some point in time, the internet service was sucking so much from Verizon on my phone that this chat was not working, and so I had a call.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would have left him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mark Ham, you have no internet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I ended up calling them, and I told them Kim was my mother, which my first reaction was, I should have said she's my grandmother, whether or not I want to be like you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, he tells her, she's my mom, you know, and so they asked for what my phone number was.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And he says, Kim, what's your phone number?

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I'm like, wait a minute, I thought you were your mom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She smells weird.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was like, oh, it was mom and kid so hard, yeah, but then the lady I start arguing with her because she's like, because clearly Kim has not had a net for more than two weeks because of the thing, and the lady is like, okay, but I'll create a new ticket because it sounds like this is a nice lady to do a shoe that's not related to that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, uh, I'd

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kindly would beg to defer I disagree strongly because she's not had her nest as a dang thing happens It's a clearly it's the same problem right and like he's like well we can't we don't know for sure and I'm like Find out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we do we know for sure So I was just arguing back and forth with her and then at some point in time I was like also she's not had internet for almost three weeks now

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think she should pay the full bill.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she's like, oh yeah, well, we'll credit her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not a problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I was like, can we escalate this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because we need this person to come out here tomorrow, because she's going to her job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they did have someone come out the next morning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what they found was that

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[SPEAKER_04]: because the original ticket was in my name when they went to go check out to see what was wrong.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They unplugged my connections to see which way the outage was and they didn't plug the connection back in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, that you just wore a mask or a mask?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we're incompetent and you have so much effort for it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, everybody else had internet a day before I did because actually it was two days before I did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, you did all that?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Because they didn't plug right in the connection.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Meanwhile, I'm sitting there arguing with Frontier about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, look, I know what I'm doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's not getting internet to our house because of the day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How does not write?

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm smarter than your text.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm still going to have to go to Emily's when I do videos because my internet can't handle the videos.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But I can do that all of the audio at

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[SPEAKER_00]: But boy, once, but yeah, it's slow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Spectrum gets that fiber or one to your house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to be in cloud nine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to be streaming that porn so fast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll buy frontiers in Jingle, leave the house for a week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's going to come out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and also, so Josh, you're pretty smart.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You probably know the difference between a phone line and either that line, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I get to her house and I'm like, check them through all the courts and I'm like, uh, internet's not good to her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a nice thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's ever said about my intelligence.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty smart.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I go back over to the line where it's coming into the house and I'm like, uh, what does she have as a doctor?

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[SPEAKER_00]: She has as real old a doctor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and it's because when frontier installed her internet, they just ran it through her phone line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they didn't even change that out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the phone lines are harder to change.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it comes into the house and then there's an adapter that plugs into the phone line, that then transfers it into an either net line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's so 90s.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, well, Kim, I want to get internet sucks, but Horace, because they're, I mean, they're running this internet through a phone line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, so stupid.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Kim's like, dial up speed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know how, like, sometimes people take advantage of older people, I mean, that's what that will happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I was asking Kim about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, well, when they came out here to install it, they told me that I'd have to pay to have them redo it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't work that way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if they need to run a new line for you to have their service then they'll pay for it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You have never had to pay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, they'll get a bigger attic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If they, I had to, I'd be like, I'm going to find a different company because you guys are scammers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, well, there's no other thing else out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She could get sidelines and that would be worse.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They would, they probably know that and they're like, yeah, you're going to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I'm waiting now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Spectrum was what Comcast was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: where we grew up for the longest time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was all you could get around ball state.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You could not get anything else.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They hadn't monopolized that market and boarded.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They take advantage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would never hide out the wall.

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[SPEAKER_02]: for the base.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It went down all the time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it was this is like 2008, 2009.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, it's not like we had nowhere anywhere near fiber quality, but we're just paying for the base.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there's a lot.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't have much problem with it going down a lot.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Usually if it does go down, it only lasts, you know, either a few hours maybe a day at the most two.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But this is the second time since I've had it, which do you remember how long ago it's been a while?

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's been a really long time, but this is the second time that I've been without for a couple of weeks.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And the first time the reason I've been without for a couple of weeks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, all right.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The first time I was out three weeks, and it was because there was a trendy realm at behind Minerva Central School in it cut the line.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So it took them a long time to get that fixed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can't we just run temple hines?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You didn't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Getting extension guard.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, people are internet for weeks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's almost 2026.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you can run it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's run a temporary line above the thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Internet to no longer likes it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I had.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's an necessity.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I didn't have anything to watch movies on because I was stream everything.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So I couldn't watch anything.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I had to go buy a new DVD player just so I could watch the old movies that I've seen a hundred times so it had something to watch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is why it's under photo physical books.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just in case.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because you know I do I do do audio books, but for situations like this a good physical book.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But so I finally went and bought a DVD player and Emily loaned me her series of bones.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I've been watching bones.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He wasn't blonde was he cute blonde guy you watched it Jeffersonian they were from the Jeffersonian She was a he was a cop.

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[SPEAKER_04]: No, he's a dark-haired guy.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He was a cop FBI agent and she was a

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I think he played Angel on the show east to watch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: David Boreanis, I don't know what he's saying.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm not sure what the actor's name is, but but anyway, I love the show.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I always loved bones and now I've realized because of crime camp.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There's a lot of bugs and, you know, larvae and maggots and stuff, and I'm like, I know this, so that makes it even more interesting, even the scene most of them, you know.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, well, are you guys ready for my mystery today?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I must.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so here we go.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I have to reset up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you do what you need to do, Kim.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It all started with a stain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't blood, not oil.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just a smudge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was on a concrete floor in a quiet village tucked into the hills of Southern Spain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The kind of thing you wouldn't even notice unless you were cleaning, and that's exactly what Maria Gomez was doing on August 23rd, 1971.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was sweeping up her modest kitchen in the sleepy little town,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh God, I need to just pick cities in Indiana.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Belmez, Dalea, more alde.

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[SPEAKER_02]: In a sleepy village in this country.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Named Timothy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Timothy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's when she noticed it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A dark patch it was right by the hearth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It looked like nothing until it didn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it wasn't just a smudge it had eyes and those eyes were staring back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Today, we're going to step into a kitchen that became the site of one of the world's strangers' hauntings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A place where the dead may have drawn their own portraits.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ooh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the story of the Belmez faces, a mystery that appeared without warning, refused to be buried, and it still hunts the floorboards of folklore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Belmez, De La,

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[SPEAKER_00]: morale day, I probably just pronounce that completely different way from the first thing I pronounced.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the kind of town where nothing ever happens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All of trees roll across the hills, the church bells told like they always have and everyone knows everyone else's business.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's peaceful, it's quiet, it's a village that for centuries drifted alone like a sunset memory.

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[SPEAKER_02]: that's tiny font.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, but this has my own master information on it too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are white walls, there are concrete floors, there's a wood burning hearth, home to Maria Gomez, and her husband whose name was one, one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Maria was known in the village as kind, quiet, and devout, the type who went to mass every Sunday, kept her home tidy and didn't make her fuss.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just like me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Every Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember every Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Her neighbors would later say she was almost shy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She spent her mornings baking bread, her afternoon, tending to the plants this is huge

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nothing about her suggested trickery or a taste for fame.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If anything, Maria wanted a quiet life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She certainly wasn't looking to host a paranormal circus, but her floor had other plans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then, then, then, then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That first stain appeared near the stove.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Over the course of a few days, the smudge darkened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Taking on the vague shape of a face, then the face grew clear, it had sunken eyes, a long jaw, and a solemn expression.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One thought it was a water stain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He scrubbed it, it didn't budge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He poured new concrete over the spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thought the problem was solved, until another face appeared.

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[SPEAKER_00]: soon the kitchen floor looked like a graveyard of expressions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sun, rock, rock, rock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sun, mournful, some angry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some were almost pleading.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They'd fade and they'd reappear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They seemed to shift positions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes they smiled.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Other times they looked terrified.

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[SPEAKER_00]: local started visiting, and then journalists, scientists, Paris psychologists, tourists from across Europe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you imagine coming into my house?

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, in your kitchen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not gonna lie.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My first thought was, I'd try to sit on one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just try it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you want to see what happens?

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[SPEAKER_02]: See what happens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what I've faced turned real soon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they started crying.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Then the vase has never came back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They were the neighbors.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the town had become home to a mystery that defied science and scrub brushes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Maria, she kept sweeping.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Over the next few months, the floor transformed into what people started calling Lappare, De La Caras, and if you can speak Spanish, I'm so sorry, I probably but you don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I did that, but in Spanish, it was the wall of faces, except on the floor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't a wall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was the kitchen floor, and it wasn't not stopping.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, is there not a Spanish word for floor?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there is, but they probably is like the wall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It sounded better than it did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You probably come see a wall other than, let's go look at the floor.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I got one and I have a home, we got floor.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, we have a wall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the face is varied, somewhere life like they had eyes, noses, mouth, etched in model to concrete.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Others were skeletal and hollow with cheeks, and they would have less, the staring pockets like it was a skeleton.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One looked like a bearded man, mid-screen, others resembled a child with wide, un-blinging eyes, visitors gave them nicknames, the woman with hollow eyes, they weren't creative.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It probably sounds better in Spanish.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The smiling boy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maria said they changed, sometimes overnight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One morning, she swore the hollow-eyed woman had opened her mouth wider.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The smiling boy seemed to frowned by the end of the week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Neighbors co-operate the story, and so did visiting priests, even government officials.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The frenzy grew, newspapers splashed headlines across Spain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The faces of Belmez shocked the nation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People lined up outside the house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you imagine?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd move.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But turn a cell out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It would be part of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd just get carpeting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some prayed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some demanded it to be shut down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One local priest even called it a troubling sign of restless spirits.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wild skeptics called it a mass hysteria.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The mayor was so disturbed by the phenomenon that he ordered an excavation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Scientists and construction workers lifted sections of the floor for testing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jesus, making a mess of this house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what they found underneath made everyone's skin crawl.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bared beneath Maria's kitchen, were human remains, bones mostly, some dating back centuries, several were missing skulls.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Historians later confirmed the area may have once been a medieval cemetery or a mass burial site, possibly from plague victims or executed prisoners, no one knew who the bones belonged to, but the faces upstairs, they were starting to look familiar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As word spread, the town became a magnet for every kind of investigator.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of the first was German, day, argumentso, a Spanish, Paris psychologist who believed the faces were genuine manifestations of psychic energy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He called it one of the most important paranormal cases of the 20th century, and he wasn't alone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a child, Hans Benderover, Names, Hans Bender, became involved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He would offer theories like could these people have been projected images onto physical surfaces?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He almost thought that they were spiritual photographs, that's the way that he would describe them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He also believed Maria was some kind of medium that her emotional state, possibly triggered by living over a burial ground, was imprinting images into the concrete.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But skeptics did push back really hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A man named Joel Nichol, a well-known American investigator, dismissed the whole thing as a fraud.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Spanish researchers, Caesar Tort, and Louis Ruaz, Nagman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: very very particular person.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Lewis, they had argued the faces were chemically created, perhaps with assets or with pigments that seaped into the porous concrete.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Its paint, one skeptic, had declared, was paint, clever illusions, and people seeing what they wanted to see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In 1990, Spain's ceramic and glass institute took samples from the floor,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Their conclusion, no trace of paint or dye in the top layers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But deeper down, there were metals like chromium and lyd, which were common in pigments.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then in 2014, a forensic team conducted a full retest on national television.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They used solvents, acids, and even silver nitrate to replicate the effect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: they failed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They couldn't do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're conclusion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We found no evidence of manipulation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The faces were not painted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were not photos.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They just were.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's when the mystery deepened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maria never profited from the faces.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She didn't charge admission.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She didn't write a book.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She didn't go on tour.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She just lived with them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For more than 30 years, Maria swept her kitchen with faces watching her every move.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She never claimed to understand it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, when asked by reporters, she once said, I don't know where they come from.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I only know they won't leave.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some whispered she was cursed, others wore, she had been chosen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maria herself said little, keeping her devotion to God and her broom in hand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: After she died in 2004, something changed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The faces stopped appearing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A man named Pedro Amoros, a self-described psychic, claimed to find new faces in another house owned by the family.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the media quickly debunked them as fake.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A major Spanish newspaper accused the new investigators of staging the phenomenon to draw tourists.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The new faces were too clean, they were too sharp, too obvious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever was happening to Maria's house, it wasn't happening anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because maybe Maria wasn't faking it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe she was the mystery.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The house on Cal Rio 5 still stands.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can visit, though it is mostly quiet now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The floor has been patched.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The original faces are almost mostly gone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: or fade it into ghostly outlines.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tor groups sometimes stop by, though the house doesn't look like much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cracked white walls, a sagging roof, a kitchen that smells faintly of damp stone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Locals will still tell you where to look, pointing at face shadows in the floor, as if to say, there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you see it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some who go say they still feel watched, others say the air feels heavier in the kitchen, a few even claim that the faces are still there, just waiting for someone new to see them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what were they?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was it a hoax, a haunting, a subconscious phenomenon, a trick of the eyes, or maybe something deeper?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What if the land remembers what if energy, grief, and memory even trauma can sink into the stone and when the right person comes along, it rises?

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[SPEAKER_00]: The stain on Maria's floor, maybe it wasn't a face, maybe it was a message.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you guys think?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's your opinion?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, energy can either be created, nor destroyed, and everything has a vibration to it, from even cement flooring.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, based on those principles, the energy from the deceased buried underneath, the vibrationally imprint upon the cement above it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Especially if maybe she was,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not necessarily like a medium, but you know, maybe she had like a psychic gift and kind of just enhanced those energies and vibrations and kind of brought them towards her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because especially since she died and they kind of faded away, it makes me think that she was the one causing them.

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[SPEAKER_04]: not, not doing it physically.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but just because she wasn't going after money, she wasn't going after fame, she just continued to live her normal life and, you know, follow her, she didn't change as a person because of it makes me think that it was a real event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it could just be, you know, floors are weird sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There was just a

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know a stain, like, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's very curious for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Google them real quick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you spell it by B-E-L-M-E-Z and then Faces.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bell-Maz, B-E-L-M-E-Z Faces.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At first, when I was going through all the research, I was like, well, you know, I know that the human brain has a habit of trying to make

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like no one's around to, but some of them are creepy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would not want to be living in a house to have some of those like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, that floor, I'd get carpeting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, no.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Scurry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Especially that group of them right there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're the little boy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't see them as like, oh, oh, oh.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I see the bearded man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It looks like an ancient like philosopher, monk, who, guy, like he was John D. Queen Elizabeth, the Firth, Sarah, mystic, essentially kind of resembles him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I thought it was really interesting because they found the bodies in the basement, like under the floor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought that was really interesting because a lot of them didn't have heads.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was like, that's very odd that you have bodies under the home that don't have heads, and you have faces appearing like that energy as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The ladies is the creepiest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I wouldn't sit on none of these things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no, probably not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Although, if there was an attractive man one coming through, I'd sit on his face the next morning and I'd wake up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They'd be all in the ceiling.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, try again.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Never heard of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe she was sweeping the dirt every day into a specific pattern and that's why they stopped afterwards because she stopped sweeping the floor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I kind of think that if it wasn't for her faith, she probably wouldn't have told anyone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that she probably went to her church, whatever, and told them they would see it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's probably.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like Catholic Christians are more open to the spiritual side where it's demons.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And she would baptist that floor would have been tore up and they were for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for today's ship, far segment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to travel to Indiana.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we're here already.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We are going to Lake County, which isn't too far from here for the North.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we're traveling to May 20th, 2023.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're in the community of lakes of the four seasons in Indiana.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We find Brian Niedert, a 47-year-old father in a local man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was sorting through his grandfather's belongings with his kids, a 14-year-old son in an 18-year-old daughter, in the garage of the family home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Lakes of the Four seasons is a gated lakeside neighborhood about 30 minutes south east of Chicago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Known for its quiet streets, private lakes and suburban tranquility.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't often make headlines.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's charm-wise, and it's calm, leafy roads.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We can't fishing in the sense of community.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that evening, the calm shattered.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They'd spent the afternoon sorting tools, old uniforms, and dusty keep sakes from his grandfather's military service.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's when it happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The family discovered a hand grenade

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[SPEAKER_00]: shit far.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Someone reportedly pulled the pin and it detonated instantly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brian was killed at the scene.

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[SPEAKER_00]: His two teenage children were gravely injured by Shrapnel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were rushed to the hospital fighting for their lives.

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[SPEAKER_00]: or shit far and save the matches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Investigators later said they weren't sure whether the grenade self detonated from age or if someone intentionally triggered it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Either way, what started as an ordinary family clean up ended in tragedy, turning nostalgic memories into a nightmare.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But can you imagine?

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's insane.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's this is the second shit far story of like some were passing away and their descendants are searching through their stuff and they find a grenade alive grenade.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't touch it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I felt that was common knowledge.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess an old bullet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I wouldn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm just guessing that these like you would maybe think it's a toy or something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know?

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[SPEAKER_02]: But not with old men.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but what they don't know is like did he like see it and thank oh What's this and then pull the pen because I mean I'm assuming I'm never pulled a pen of a grenade But I'm assuming it's not like a oh it fell out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know like I'm assuming you got a pull it

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, the old ones, sometimes you don't even have to pull it because the stuff that separates everything, kind of, you know, doesn't necessarily work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, or weekends with time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, even just moving it, moving those things, and just pulled it up and picked it up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, I did learn recently that they have trained

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[SPEAKER_02]: rats to go and old mind fields because even though those minds were buried like decades past they're still active but no one knows where they are so there's you know large plots of land where these wars have been fought where people can't even walk through because they can't even have you know livestock go through because the land flow up but they've trained rats to be able to detect them by smell

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[SPEAKER_02]: and the rats don't weigh enough to activate the mind.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they'll go out, they'll locate it, and then the men can safely dig up the minds, and they've actually been able to clear quite a lot of land for old landmines.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I mean, it's a big problem because, you know, little kids don't know what that is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they're like, look, a field that's wide and open to run through and then they're dead.

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[SPEAKER_04]: with his old as that is he may have just had his finger on the pen and then it went off so it looked like they actually pulled it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh yeah I see in a lot of stories where people find old like warheads and stuff buried in the ground and they're

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's in there digging it up and moving, and you know, they, oh, this is a Vietnam Warhead, then they call a museum, and they're like, get away from it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't touch it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It will be their shortly get like move, if it gets away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It makes you wonder what people are thinking when they find things like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm assuming that you just don't expect to find it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, I wouldn't, but I sure as hell wouldn't, like, try to dig it up either once I realized what it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I wouldn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so bizarre.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It will be crazy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I guess so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, guys, you can find us wherever you listen to podcasts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have a really fun community and we have a lot of bonus episodes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I have to go potty first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We are, we like ourselves, we laugh at ourselves, come join us, come laugh with us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll probably be posted in my birthday cake room.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Your birthday is tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_04]: How will we be Josh 35 today is Cody and Andrew's wedding?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Happy wedding, happy wedding day, guys.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I meant to send them a message this morning to all and I'm happy wedding day and I forgot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's still there?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is there and with a phone call.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's behind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Having a reception, not the one that was dating his distant cousin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a different uncle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Same side of the family, though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Same trash, just a bag.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And every trash can has its leaves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right guys, well, if my mystery today has taught you anything, it should be that sometimes what we bury doesn't stay buried.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some mysteries don't always need monsters or murder to kill your bones.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes it's a quiet kitchen and a quiet village, a woman with a broom and a stain that stares back in that always like the worst thing, like when you have a stain and you just

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[SPEAKER_00]: Until next time, stay curious, stay spooky, and if you're flore ever tries to make eye contact.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sit on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe just don't mop that part.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, we'll catch you on unmasked in a moment, and we'll see the rest of you next week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bye!