Dec. 9, 2025
MURDERED: Paula Thompson | Des Moines, Iowa 2020
On March 13, 2020, a long-simmering domestic conflict in Des Moines, Iowa, erupted into fatal violence. Paula Marie Thompson, a 50-year-old claims processor, was beaten to death with a crowbar by her adult son Christopher inside the home they shared on Pleasantview Drive. Her body would not be discovered until five days later.
VICTIM PROFILE:
Paula Thompson was 50 years old at the time of her death. She worked as a claims processor and was known among friends and coworkers as hardworking and responsible. Behind closed doors, however, Paula struggled with a volatile home situation. Her 32-year-old son Christopher still lived with her, financially dependent on her despite years of unemployment and sporadic work through temporary agencies. Paula had confided to friends that she was afraid of Christopher, tired of the drinking, and tired of supporting an adult who showed no progress toward independence.
CASE SIGNIFICANCE:
This case represents a devastating example of domestic violence that did not arrive suddenly. Paula Thompson spent months warning the people around her. She told friends she was afraid. She contacted her son's probation officer multiple times between December 2019 and March 2020, expressing growing fear. She even appeared in a Facebook video whispering to a friend that Christopher was "going to kill" her. Despite these warnings, Paula could not escape the danger living inside her own home.
CONTENT WARNINGS:
This episode contains descriptions of domestic violence, blunt force trauma, and animal cruelty. Listener discretion is advised.
KEY CASE DETAILS:
• Paula and Christopher argued on March 13, 2020, both having been drinking. Christopher retrieved a crowbar and struck his mother multiple times in the head. He remained in the home with her body for five days before confessing to a friend over the phone.
• Christopher also killed Paula's cat with the same crowbar, later disposing of the animal's body in a trash can. He pleaded guilty to animal abuse in addition to the murder charge.
• On March 18, 2020, Christopher walked into the Polk County Jail and confessed. He was subsequently found guilty of first-degree murder and sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole.
RESOURCES:
This episode draws from court documents filed in Polk County, Iowa, including criminal complaints and the Iowa Supreme Court opinion in State v. Thompson. Additional sources include reporting from KCCI Des Moines, KCRG, and the Des Moines Register. For anyone experiencing domestic violence, the National Domestic Violence Hotline is available 24/7 at 1-800-799-7233.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Listener, some murders do not erupt out of nowhere.
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[SPEAKER_11]: They grow in silence over months and years inside the walls of a home.
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[SPEAKER_11]: They are built on dependency, resentment, fear, and the slow erosion of boundaries that keep family relationships stable.
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[SPEAKER_11]: This episode examines what happens when an adult man child never truly becomes independent.
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[SPEAKER_11]: an apparent becomes both provider and prisoner side their own home.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It is a story about a household poisoned by alcohol, financial strain, and constant conflict that no one ever seemed to resolve.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It is about the warning signs that were visible, spoken aloud, and documented long before the violence finally exploded.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It is about a mother who saw danger coming, and a son never took
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[SPEAKER_11]: until as far too late.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It is the final result of a situation that's simmered long before boiling over.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Let's get on with it.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Welcome, listener.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I'm glad you're here.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Take a seat.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Next to the fire.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to Obscura, where we shine a light on the dark.
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[SPEAKER_11]: All of Marie Thompson was born on April 28, 1969.
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[SPEAKER_11]: By adulthood, she lived in Des Moines, Iowa, working as a claims processor.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She was known among friends and coworkers as hardworking and responsible, but those that knew her more closely.
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[SPEAKER_11]: understood that her home life was travel.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Her adult son, Christopher William Thompson, born in 1987, still lived with her well into his thirties.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Their relationship was strained in volatile, marked by drinking, arguments, financial dependency, and years of unresolved problems that steadily grew worse.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Christopher had not built an independent adult life
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[SPEAKER_11]: and only works sporadically through temporary staffing agencies.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Sometimes going long stretches without any income.
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[SPEAKER_11]: As a result, he relied almost entirely on Bala for housing, food, and daily life expenses.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He resented this dependency, but...
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[SPEAKER_11]: He did nothing to change it, Ola, who would always step into support her son, grew increasingly frustrated.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She felt she was carrying the weight of a fully grown adult, and a doll who showed no progress towards standing on his own, or even interest in doing so.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Friends said, Paula, believe that if she stopped helping him, he would end up homeless or in trouble.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yet supporting him trapped her in a situation that frightened her, both Paula and Christopher struggled without going on.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Each had periods of heavy drinking, and when Paula drank, she could become confrontational, emotional, even harsh general language.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Christopher would later tell investigators that when Paula drank, he thought she became verbally abusive, calling him names and shouting at him and criticizing his failures.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Ola, on the other hand, told friends that when Christopher drank, he became unpredictable, angry, aggressive.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Neighbors and acquaintances occasionally overheard arguments from inside the house, suggesting that conflict was frequent and serious.
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[SPEAKER_11]: In December 2019, Paula confided to her close friend, Melissa Moilin, that she was deeply afraid of her son.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Moilin once watched a live video on Paula's Facebook page, in which Paula whispered, quote, he's going to kill me.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He's going crazy.
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[SPEAKER_12]: I called and left a message with dispatch.
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[SPEAKER_14]: Oh, did you?
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[SPEAKER_12]: I went back a bar clay.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Because I live right here.
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[SPEAKER_14]: So you know the neighbors pretty well over here?
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[SPEAKER_14]: I heard they already that they fought a lot, or drink a lot, but I don't know if that's true.
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[SPEAKER_12]: I'm...
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[SPEAKER_12]: They thought a lot.
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[SPEAKER_12]: She was an alcoholic and I don't know if she currently was dry or not.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_12]: She went on and off.
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[SPEAKER_12]: So often I couldn't treat track.
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[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Were you two who have heard you and her close or close to know that every time something happened, she can run into my daughter.
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[SPEAKER_14]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_14]: She lived with her son, right?
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[SPEAKER_12]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_14]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_14]: What's his name again?
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[SPEAKER_12]: Christopher.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Christopher.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Now he's a twin.
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[SPEAKER_12]: I don't know if you contacted the brother.
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[SPEAKER_14]: I'm not sure who and who we've not contacted.
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[SPEAKER_12]: I'm assuming they would have contacted her father and probably your brother.
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[SPEAKER_12]: They're her son.
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[SPEAKER_12]: She's no my child.
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[SPEAKER_12]: She's lived there for plus 25 years.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Oh wow.
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[SPEAKER_12]: And I've lived here 32.
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[SPEAKER_12]: So I know we're not intimate that we talk daily.
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[SPEAKER_14]: Sorry.
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[SPEAKER_12]: But yes, I know where I know of the problems, I was here the day that there was the problem that she got him arrested and he went to jail.
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[SPEAKER_11]: In the months leading up to the murder, the situation deteriorated even further.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Christopher was on probation from a prior situation, and Paula became involved in communications with his probation officer.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She emailed and contacted that officer in December 2019, and again in early March 2020, expressing that she was growing increasingly afraid of her son.
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[SPEAKER_11]: An tired of supporting an adult, who she felt was doing nothing to improve, she indicated clearly that she was considering cutting off financial support and making him move out.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She told friends that she believed Christopher could become violent and that she feared he might kill her.
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[SPEAKER_11]: These warnings were not vague suggestions, listener.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She said them directly, multiple times, to more than one person.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Inside the house, the dynamic continued to worsen.
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[SPEAKER_11]: All a controlled the finances, paid the bills, an expected Christopher to follow home's rules, are sun-resented not only the rules,
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[SPEAKER_11]: of the reminders of his dependence.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He felt stuck, treated like a child, and embarrassed by the situation.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Instead of attempting to leave, he stayed, drank and internalized growing anger.
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[SPEAKER_11]: All a meanwhile, was trying to push him towards independence, but did not yet take in the final step of forcing him out.
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[SPEAKER_11]: This emotional stalemate hung over the home, but it wouldn't hang for much longer.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Things were getting close to eruption.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hi, my name is Paula Thompson, and my son actually is on probation, and he's trying to get in the house, and it would have, um, to 19 pleasant view drive.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_13]: What's your son's name?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Christopher Thompson, and he's like, I hear you call him the police.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mom, please don't, but I'm feeling okay.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Does he have any weapons?
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[SPEAKER_13]: I'm not that I know of.
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[SPEAKER_13]: How old is he?
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[SPEAKER_02]: 32.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Do you know what color or code or jacket he's wearing?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Gray.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like really dark gray.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Please.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Hello.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I thank you for coming.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're welcome.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, my son.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's on probation.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He decided to leave and go get some alcohol and come back.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hi, I didn't realize I didn't hear the knock-down.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I put a little note right here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He was mad.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He was like knocking on the door, mom let me in.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You didn't really call the police.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I did.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then he took off in his car and you can see the oil spots from this.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, all right.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Did he stay here with you?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Occasionally, he doesn't really have any where it'll live.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So... What's Occasionally?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Well, little jinxing might get out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you can't go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's like, I don't know what to think.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_07]: What's Occasionally?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, okay, he lived with my dad.
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[SPEAKER_04]: and he lived with me and he lived with my dad and he lived with me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He is on probation.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is what's his favorite language.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if you're on my dad.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I guess be careful if you're letting him back here and staying here because at some point he could probably declare residency here.
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[SPEAKER_07]: If you'll allow him to stay here long enough and he's got enough stuff here.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So therefore you can call us.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But if he says, yeah, I got all my clothes inside of him sitting here for the last week.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's hard for us to tell him he can't come back here.
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[SPEAKER_07]: He couldn't be his residence at that point, okay?
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[SPEAKER_07]: So, but if you have problems with this drinking, I'd contact his probation officer because I doubt he can drink on probation.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So, and there would be the ones to violate his probation.
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[SPEAKER_07]: We can't do anything about that.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So, all right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: When he's like violent towards me, when did I do?
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's called a police put your phone on record while we're in the house that way everything's recorded as far as what he does and says But if he's that violent and he's an unprohibitioned alcoholic or has alcohol problems I suggest you just don't lend him back in and stay here with you anymore So he can clean the big tough lesson to learn, but there's no right there.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I get it.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So All righty, yep, all right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you as well take care of your Yeah, thank you
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[SPEAKER_11]: On Friday, March 13th, Christopher and Paula were both drunk and arguing.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He said when Paula drank, she, quote, turned into a monster.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He tried to go into his room, but Paula would not let him shut the door.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He stated, Paula said his quote, wife is just a pathetic piece of shit that everything was heard.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Thompson blew up.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He just couldn't take it anymore.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He walked down the hallway past Paula through the kitchen.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And he grabbed a crowbar from a toolkit in the back staircase.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He turned and walked full-striped back to Paula with determination.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He then struck her in the head.
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[SPEAKER_11]: repeatedly, he struck her again and again, only stopping when he started seeing the blood oozing.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He stared at her for a long time, walked to the couch, looked at her, and then the television, then back at Paula.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He noticed blood was getting everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He dragged her body into her room, threw a towel over her face so he didn't have to look at it.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And placed rugs on the blood on the floor, so he wouldn't step in it.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He then washed the crowbar, quote, because it was dripping and placed it on the kitchen table.
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[SPEAKER_11]: For the next several days, Christopher parted.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He continued to live in the house, with his mother's body in the bedroom.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He drank alcohol, watched television,
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[SPEAKER_11]: who left the house at least twice to buy more alcohol.
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[SPEAKER_11]: During this time, he got fed up with Paul's cat.
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[SPEAKER_11]: To him, it was a symbol of her, and he growingly made him more and more angry.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So we picked up the crowbar, and he beat the cat to death.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He then disposed of the dead animal's body, and outdoor trash bin.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He then smashed Paul's phone, possibly to limit incoming calls, or prevent her contacts from reaching him.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Meanwhile, Paul's absence was becoming impossible for her co-workers and friends to ignore.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She stopped showing up to work, and was not responding to calls or messages.
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[SPEAKER_11]: One friend, Lori Baker, became increasingly alarmed.
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[SPEAKER_11]: On March 18th, she called Christopher to ask about Paula.
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[SPEAKER_11]: At first, he tried to avoid answering, but eventually, he told her that he could not lie anymore.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And confessed that he had blacked down killed his mother.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Lori immediately contacted Warren Forstman, and requested a welfare check.
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[SPEAKER_05]: 911?
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[SPEAKER_17]: Um, yes, I'm eating a welfare check.
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[SPEAKER_17]: Well, she has not responded for several days and her and she hasn't checked in with her boss so I called her son and he has now said that he like harmed her and she's dead and are you a co-worker?
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[SPEAKER_17]: I'm her friend and her I'm her emergency contact.
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[SPEAKER_17]: Don't her boss help me.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, in your name?
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[SPEAKER_17]: Lori Baker, L-O-O-R-I-E Baker.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And did he say, when this happened, like, when did you speak with him today?
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[SPEAKER_17]: Today, just a little bit ago.
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[SPEAKER_17]: And he said, I can't keep lying to you.
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[SPEAKER_17]: He's been telling me that she's just been drinking.
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[SPEAKER_17]: I don't really know what to say.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And you said she hasn't shown up for work either?
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[SPEAKER_17]: She has not.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, is this something live there?
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[SPEAKER_17]: Yeah, uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, did he say what he did?
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[SPEAKER_05]: What is it?
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[SPEAKER_05]: A crowbar, okay.
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[SPEAKER_17]: Well, yeah, he just has... Has he even known to have any kind of mental issues or anything?
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[SPEAKER_17]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That was Christopher.
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[SPEAKER_05]: If you don't know this, yes.
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[SPEAKER_17]: He's 30, something.
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[SPEAKER_17]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_17]: Maybe 35?
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[SPEAKER_05]: And is he white black hazelnut spannacks?
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[SPEAKER_17]: He's white.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, he had the same last name Baker or his last name different.
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[SPEAKER_17]: No, no, no Thompson.
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[SPEAKER_17]: It's Paula Thompson.
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, you're Baker.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I wrote my notes wrong.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_17]: My last name is Peter.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I got it right now.
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[SPEAKER_17]: That's okay.
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[SPEAKER_17]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_17]: Any have a record.
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[SPEAKER_17]: And like he has had some anger management issues before, but well, obviously, never to disagree.
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[UNKNOWN]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_17]: So I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_17]: I mean, I couldn't tell if he was like, right?
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[SPEAKER_17]: No why he would say that if he didn't do that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: How old is Paula?
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[SPEAKER_05]: I should ask you that earlier, sorry.
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[SPEAKER_17]: She is just about 50 or right around that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I got the trip in.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We're going to get some officers headed over there.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Police arrived at the home, and what they discovered was grim.
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[SPEAKER_11]: They discovered Paula deceased in the bedroom, the scene of course showed bloodstains.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Signs of Christopher's cleaning, and the obvious signs of severe trauma.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Please.
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[SPEAKER_16]: Oh.
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[SPEAKER_16]: Please.
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[SPEAKER_16]: And whole traffic, we have a person down inside the house we're looking for any other subject now.
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[SPEAKER_16]: A lot of clutter right here on the store.
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[SPEAKER_16]: I'm sorry, she's been drugger-moved, right?
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[SPEAKER_16]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_08]: We'll go take a look.
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[SPEAKER_16]: We'll go take a look.
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[SPEAKER_16]: Let's check this door.
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[SPEAKER_16]: We check this one.
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[SPEAKER_16]: How do you get to that?
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[SPEAKER_16]: Hey, could you get to this little area from under the stairs?
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[SPEAKER_16]: Yeah, never mind.
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[SPEAKER_16]: I see it, I just, I was looking for like where the water heater is and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_16]: Yeah, it's, it's clear down here.
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[SPEAKER_16]: Is there a garage?
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[SPEAKER_16]: 245 Adam, if you want to notify supervisor, an item that I have a 504 come out here.
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[SPEAKER_16]: There's a crowbar here on the table.
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[SPEAKER_16]: Is there a garage?
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[SPEAKER_06]: uh the tacos yeah it's gonna welcome me to touch the new um the uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh
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[SPEAKER_16]: What's double, we're going to peek inside the car again real quick.
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[SPEAKER_16]: 45 at him.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Uh, they can come in.
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[SPEAKER_16]: It's uh, an obvious, but I want to do another sweep of the upstairs.
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[SPEAKER_16]: Yeah, I mean, I just peeked around there too.
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[SPEAKER_16]: I just want to make sure we check everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_16]: We don't think we looked in there because that bag was already in front of the door.
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[SPEAKER_06]: This is a closet thing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We need to have this in that phone for the son.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Maybe we can get a hold of it.
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[SPEAKER_16]: OK. Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_16]: Anyway, yeah, I guess I'm pretty confident that he's not here, but we're going to do one more sweep.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'll hang out out here in that way.
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[SPEAKER_06]: There's one more person on the street.
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[SPEAKER_16]: Yeah, I mean, she's got settling, she's been down for a while.
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[SPEAKER_16]: So she got some blood journey and the blood's coagulated and dry.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So we just need that if we come in or not, not even.
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[SPEAKER_16]: I don't even think that it's pretty obvious.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not sure.
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[SPEAKER_16]: Well, well, they're here on the, yeah, there's some, when we first peaked that or we,
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[SPEAKER_16]: There's some bottles and stuff over here, probably been doing a lot of dirty stuff.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Just back there running the sign and see if I can kind of see the crowbar over there.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Dave, Dave.
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[SPEAKER_12]: I'm 45 Adam.
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[SPEAKER_12]: I'm 45 Adam.
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[SPEAKER_12]: I'm 45 Adam.
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[SPEAKER_12]: I'm 45 Adam.
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[SPEAKER_12]: I'm 45 Adam.
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[SPEAKER_12]: I'm 45 Adam.
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[SPEAKER_12]: I'm 45 Adam.
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[SPEAKER_16]: I'm 45 Adam.
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[SPEAKER_16]: I'm 45 Adam.
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[SPEAKER_16]: I'm 45 Adam.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm 45 Adam.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm 45 Adam.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm 45 Adam.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm 45 Adam.
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[SPEAKER_16]: Cuppies going to run the plate, we're going to start there from the car.
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[SPEAKER_11]: According to an autopsy report, Hollis sustained several chomp wounds to her scalp, specifically on the left-to-more region, the back of her head, behind her right ear, these chomp wounds were described in a way that suggests a blunt instrument, not a clean cut.
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[SPEAKER_11]: The examiner explained that while the edges were fairly clean,
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[SPEAKER_11]: The skin near the wounds was abraided, essentially cut and scraped back, consisted with blows from a blunt object, such as a crowbar.
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[SPEAKER_11]: There were also defensive type injuries on Paulus' right arm and hand.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Her middle-right finger tip was completely absent.
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[SPEAKER_11]: The examiner noted that these wounds, indicated she tried to block her shield herself from the blows, all was fully aware that this was happening to her.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She would have begged Christopher to stop hitting her.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She suffered extensive brain hemorrhaging, massive bleeding in her brain, consistent with severe blunt force trauma.
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[SPEAKER_11]: The officers went to Christopher's grandfather's house next.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Olivia Bine, the CFE was there.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Hi.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Hello, is Chris here?
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[SPEAKER_15]: No.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Does he live here currently?
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[SPEAKER_15]: No, he doesn't.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Okay, he talks with all recently.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Please, want to talk to him.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Who's the last time you heard from him?
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[SPEAKER_08]: I see you on the 26th of February.
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[SPEAKER_15]: okay if you want if you don't mind just look around for him he is the that is our look before right now the architect is our so he has a lived here for a couple months or longer than six months okay I was in it
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[SPEAKER_15]: Okay, but if you don't mind, we'll still look around quick.
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[SPEAKER_15]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
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[SPEAKER_15]: I'm gonna be there.
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[SPEAKER_15]: We just gotta pull from the tent to say hey, we need to talk to him and he might be considered dangerous.
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[SPEAKER_15]: So that's why we came with our guns always just because I don't know him.
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[SPEAKER_15]: They told us he might be dangerous.
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[SPEAKER_15]: So for that whatever they're looking forward for, I'm not really sure.
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[SPEAKER_15]: But if you do see him here from this content, I don't want to immediately please, okay?
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[SPEAKER_15]: All right, thank you.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Sorry, by the way, you're going to see to get some information from me.
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[SPEAKER_15]: So, I believe it's used that and you've been ready to know that it's a safety issue.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I was grandfathered.
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[SPEAKER_15]: grandfathered, okay, okay.
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[SPEAKER_15]: You know, the reason we've used them all to homicide this morning.
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[SPEAKER_15]: So, that is that, so I couldn't tell you before, but no, no, it press releases out.
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[SPEAKER_15]: So, that's why we're here looking for them, is they want to talk to them in relation to homicide.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Chris has always been a little bit wild, so I distance myself.
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[SPEAKER_09]: He stayed here for a while after he got out of jail because he needed a place to stay.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_09]: But then my life went on.
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[SPEAKER_09]: You can communicate for me.
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[SPEAKER_09]: You need to move.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_15]: If he shows up, I advise not to open the door and just can call us right away.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Because if he is kind of his history being unstable, and possibly all to the homicide, I don't know if he wouldn't be safe for you to.
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[SPEAKER_09]: No.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Obviously if something's going on in this head, he's on the right side of mine.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Well, some of that could happen, so.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Okay, well, I think we should be good now.
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[SPEAKER_15]: We'll stop by this the day, sir.
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[SPEAKER_09]: No, not a problem.
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[SPEAKER_09]: You had a problem.
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[SPEAKER_11]: All right, have a good day.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It occurred to both officers that they were about to leave without telling Paul his father that his grandson killed his daughter.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I ain't doing these.
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[SPEAKER_15]: So just, you know, I just talked to our family conflict, detectives, and Paula was the victim of the homicide.
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[SPEAKER_09]: And I saw a blur about the freedom.
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[SPEAKER_15]: And so, detectives Mitchell, who is our family conflict, detectives, he's getting a victim services advocate, and they're on their way out here now.
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[SPEAKER_15]: But they asked us, I was already here and taught to that I'd be able to notify you.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Sure, I appreciate that.
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[SPEAKER_09]: So, I want to give you a couple of phone numbers also.
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[SPEAKER_11]: All his father had no reaction, listen, I've seen many reactions on this show to such news, including people that seem in shock when they hear the news, William reacted as if he heard that it was going to rain later that day, not that his grandson killed his daughter, later that same day, Christopher walked into the Polk County jail and told the staff that he had killed his mother, he was arrested and interrogated.
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[SPEAKER_11]: His confession was detailed and on emotional, and his descriptions matched the evidence in the home.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Christopher was charged with first-degree murder, prosecutors presented extensive evidence, including Paul's communications expressing fear for her safety.
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[SPEAKER_11]: His confession, the physical evidence in the house and the additional killing of the cat, the pattern that they described, was one of escalating resentment, dependency, alcoholism, probation stress,
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[SPEAKER_11]: and increasingly unstable home life, the defense argued that the killing occurred in a moment of drunken rage, and should be considered impulsive, rather than premeditated.
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[SPEAKER_11]: The jury rejected the defense argument.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Christopher Thompson was found guilty of first-degree murder, and sentenced to wife and prison, without the possibility of parole.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A Des Moines man sends to life in prison Friday from murdering his mother will be sentenced on animal cruelty charges tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 33-year-old Christopher Thompson played a guilty to beating the death with a crowbar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Des Moines police say Thompson murdered his mother back in March after she tried to get a move out of her home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thompson's lawyers have already asked the court to set aside his murder conviction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They claim COVID-19 restrictions compromise their ability to thoroughly question
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[SPEAKER_01]: potential jurors in this trial.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He also received a conviction for animal cruelty due to the killing of the cat.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Listener, all the Thompson spent the last months of her wife wearing the people around her.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She told friends, she emailed her son's probation officer.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She called police.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She said clearly that she was afraid that her son might kill her.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She tried to make him change.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She tried to hold the household together.
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[SPEAKER_11]: We'll do everything for him financially and emotionally.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Christopher did nothing to leave or improve his situation.
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[SPEAKER_11]: When their final argument ignited,
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[SPEAKER_11]: The pressure that had built inside that small house finally ruptured.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Paula died in both terror and pain.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Christopher survived and now serves life without the possibility of parole.
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[SPEAKER_11]: A family ended.
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[SPEAKER_11]: A mother was silent.
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[SPEAKER_11]: In another case entered the long list of domestic homicides that did not have to happen.
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[SPEAKER_11]: In the end, there were no surprises.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Paula saw her own fate coming.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She just couldn't stop what was coming.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Listener, some murders do not erupt out of nowhere.
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[SPEAKER_11]: They grow in silence over months and years inside the walls of a home.
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[SPEAKER_11]: They are built on dependency, resentment, fear, and the slow erosion of boundaries that keep family relationships stable.
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[SPEAKER_11]: This episode examines what happens when an adult man child never truly becomes independent.
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[SPEAKER_11]: an apparent becomes both provider and prisoner side their own home.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It is a story about a household poisoned by alcohol, financial strain, and constant conflict that no one ever seemed to resolve.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It is about the warning signs that were visible, spoken aloud, and documented long before the violence finally exploded.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It is about a mother who saw danger coming, and a son never took
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[SPEAKER_11]: until as far too late.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It is the final result of a situation that's simmered long before boiling over.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Let's get on with it.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Welcome, listener.
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[SPEAKER_10]: I'm glad you're here.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Take a seat.
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[SPEAKER_10]: Next to the fire.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to Obscura, where we shine a light on the dark.
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[SPEAKER_11]: All of Marie Thompson was born on April 28, 1969.
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[SPEAKER_11]: By adulthood, she lived in Des Moines, Iowa, working as a claims processor.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She was known among friends and coworkers as hardworking and responsible, but those that knew her more closely.
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[SPEAKER_11]: understood that her home life was travel.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Her adult son, Christopher William Thompson, born in 1987, still lived with her well into his thirties.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Their relationship was strained in volatile, marked by drinking, arguments, financial dependency, and years of unresolved problems that steadily grew worse.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Christopher had not built an independent adult life
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[SPEAKER_11]: and only works sporadically through temporary staffing agencies.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Sometimes going long stretches without any income.
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[SPEAKER_11]: As a result, he relied almost entirely on Bala for housing, food, and daily life expenses.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He resented this dependency, but...
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[SPEAKER_11]: He did nothing to change it, Ola, who would always step into support her son, grew increasingly frustrated.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She felt she was carrying the weight of a fully grown adult, and a doll who showed no progress towards standing on his own, or even interest in doing so.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Friends said, Paula, believe that if she stopped helping him, he would end up homeless or in trouble.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Yet supporting him trapped her in a situation that frightened her, both Paula and Christopher struggled without going on.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Each had periods of heavy drinking, and when Paula drank, she could become confrontational, emotional, even harsh general language.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Christopher would later tell investigators that when Paula drank, he thought she became verbally abusive, calling him names and shouting at him and criticizing his failures.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Ola, on the other hand, told friends that when Christopher drank, he became unpredictable, angry, aggressive.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Neighbors and acquaintances occasionally overheard arguments from inside the house, suggesting that conflict was frequent and serious.
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[SPEAKER_11]: In December 2019, Paula confided to her close friend, Melissa Moilin, that she was deeply afraid of her son.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Moilin once watched a live video on Paula's Facebook page, in which Paula whispered, quote, he's going to kill me.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He's going crazy.
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[SPEAKER_12]: I called and left a message with dispatch.
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[SPEAKER_14]: Oh, did you?
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[SPEAKER_12]: I went back a bar clay.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Because I live right here.
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[SPEAKER_14]: So you know the neighbors pretty well over here?
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[SPEAKER_14]: I heard they already that they fought a lot, or drink a lot, but I don't know if that's true.
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[SPEAKER_12]: I'm...
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[SPEAKER_12]: They thought a lot.
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[SPEAKER_12]: She was an alcoholic and I don't know if she currently was dry or not.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_12]: She went on and off.
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[SPEAKER_12]: So often I couldn't treat track.
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[SPEAKER_14]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Were you two who have heard you and her close or close to know that every time something happened, she can run into my daughter.
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[SPEAKER_14]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_14]: She lived with her son, right?
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[SPEAKER_12]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_14]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_14]: What's his name again?
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[SPEAKER_12]: Christopher.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Christopher.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Now he's a twin.
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[SPEAKER_12]: I don't know if you contacted the brother.
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[SPEAKER_14]: I'm not sure who and who we've not contacted.
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[SPEAKER_12]: I'm assuming they would have contacted her father and probably your brother.
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[SPEAKER_12]: They're her son.
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[SPEAKER_12]: She's no my child.
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[SPEAKER_12]: She's lived there for plus 25 years.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Oh wow.
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[SPEAKER_12]: And I've lived here 32.
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[SPEAKER_12]: So I know we're not intimate that we talk daily.
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[SPEAKER_14]: Sorry.
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[SPEAKER_12]: But yes, I know where I know of the problems, I was here the day that there was the problem that she got him arrested and he went to jail.
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[SPEAKER_11]: In the months leading up to the murder, the situation deteriorated even further.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Christopher was on probation from a prior situation, and Paula became involved in communications with his probation officer.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She emailed and contacted that officer in December 2019, and again in early March 2020, expressing that she was growing increasingly afraid of her son.
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[SPEAKER_11]: An tired of supporting an adult, who she felt was doing nothing to improve, she indicated clearly that she was considering cutting off financial support and making him move out.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She told friends that she believed Christopher could become violent and that she feared he might kill her.
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[SPEAKER_11]: These warnings were not vague suggestions, listener.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She said them directly, multiple times, to more than one person.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Inside the house, the dynamic continued to worsen.
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[SPEAKER_11]: All a controlled the finances, paid the bills, an expected Christopher to follow home's rules, are sun-resented not only the rules,
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[SPEAKER_11]: of the reminders of his dependence.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He felt stuck, treated like a child, and embarrassed by the situation.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Instead of attempting to leave, he stayed, drank and internalized growing anger.
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[SPEAKER_11]: All a meanwhile, was trying to push him towards independence, but did not yet take in the final step of forcing him out.
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[SPEAKER_11]: This emotional stalemate hung over the home, but it wouldn't hang for much longer.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Things were getting close to eruption.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Hi, my name is Paula Thompson, and my son actually is on probation, and he's trying to get in the house, and it would have, um, to 19 pleasant view drive.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_13]: What's your son's name?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Christopher Thompson, and he's like, I hear you call him the police.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Mom, please don't, but I'm feeling okay.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Does he have any weapons?
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[SPEAKER_13]: I'm not that I know of.
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[SPEAKER_13]: How old is he?
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[SPEAKER_02]: 32.
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[SPEAKER_13]: Do you know what color or code or jacket he's wearing?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Gray.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like really dark gray.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Please.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Hello.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I thank you for coming.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You're welcome.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, my son.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He's on probation.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He decided to leave and go get some alcohol and come back.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Hi, I didn't realize I didn't hear the knock-down.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Sorry.
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[SPEAKER_04]: So I put a little note right here.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He was mad.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He was like knocking on the door, mom let me in.
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[SPEAKER_04]: You didn't really call the police.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, I did.
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[SPEAKER_04]: And then he took off in his car and you can see the oil spots from this.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, all right.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Did he stay here with you?
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[SPEAKER_04]: Occasionally, he doesn't really have any where it'll live.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So... What's Occasionally?
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[SPEAKER_07]: Well, little jinxing might get out.
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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, you can't go.
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[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no.
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[SPEAKER_03]: She's like, I don't know what to think.
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[SPEAKER_07]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_07]: What's Occasionally?
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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, okay, he lived with my dad.
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[SPEAKER_04]: and he lived with me and he lived with my dad and he lived with me.
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[SPEAKER_04]: He is on probation.
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[SPEAKER_04]: This is what's his favorite language.
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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if you're on my dad.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I guess be careful if you're letting him back here and staying here because at some point he could probably declare residency here.
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[SPEAKER_07]: If you'll allow him to stay here long enough and he's got enough stuff here.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So therefore you can call us.
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[SPEAKER_07]: But if he says, yeah, I got all my clothes inside of him sitting here for the last week.
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's hard for us to tell him he can't come back here.
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[SPEAKER_07]: He couldn't be his residence at that point, okay?
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[SPEAKER_07]: So, but if you have problems with this drinking, I'd contact his probation officer because I doubt he can drink on probation.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So, and there would be the ones to violate his probation.
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[SPEAKER_07]: We can't do anything about that.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So, all right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: When he's like violent towards me, when did I do?
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[SPEAKER_07]: It's called a police put your phone on record while we're in the house that way everything's recorded as far as what he does and says But if he's that violent and he's an unprohibitioned alcoholic or has alcohol problems I suggest you just don't lend him back in and stay here with you anymore So he can clean the big tough lesson to learn, but there's no right there.
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[SPEAKER_07]: I get it.
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[SPEAKER_07]: So All righty, yep, all right.
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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, you as well take care of your Yeah, thank you
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[SPEAKER_11]: On Friday, March 13th, Christopher and Paula were both drunk and arguing.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He said when Paula drank, she, quote, turned into a monster.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He tried to go into his room, but Paula would not let him shut the door.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He stated, Paula said his quote, wife is just a pathetic piece of shit that everything was heard.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Thompson blew up.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He just couldn't take it anymore.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He walked down the hallway past Paula through the kitchen.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And he grabbed a crowbar from a toolkit in the back staircase.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He turned and walked full-striped back to Paula with determination.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He then struck her in the head.
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[SPEAKER_11]: repeatedly, he struck her again and again, only stopping when he started seeing the blood oozing.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He stared at her for a long time, walked to the couch, looked at her, and then the television, then back at Paula.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He noticed blood was getting everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He dragged her body into her room, threw a towel over her face so he didn't have to look at it.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And placed rugs on the blood on the floor, so he wouldn't step in it.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He then washed the crowbar, quote, because it was dripping and placed it on the kitchen table.
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[SPEAKER_11]: For the next several days, Christopher parted.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He continued to live in the house, with his mother's body in the bedroom.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He drank alcohol, watched television,
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[SPEAKER_11]: who left the house at least twice to buy more alcohol.
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[SPEAKER_11]: During this time, he got fed up with Paul's cat.
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[SPEAKER_11]: To him, it was a symbol of her, and he growingly made him more and more angry.
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[SPEAKER_11]: So we picked up the crowbar, and he beat the cat to death.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He then disposed of the dead animal's body, and outdoor trash bin.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He then smashed Paul's phone, possibly to limit incoming calls, or prevent her contacts from reaching him.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Meanwhile, Paul's absence was becoming impossible for her co-workers and friends to ignore.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She stopped showing up to work, and was not responding to calls or messages.
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[SPEAKER_11]: One friend, Lori Baker, became increasingly alarmed.
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[SPEAKER_11]: On March 18th, she called Christopher to ask about Paula.
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[SPEAKER_11]: At first, he tried to avoid answering, but eventually, he told her that he could not lie anymore.
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[SPEAKER_11]: And confessed that he had blacked down killed his mother.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Lori immediately contacted Warren Forstman, and requested a welfare check.
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[SPEAKER_05]: 911?
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[SPEAKER_17]: Um, yes, I'm eating a welfare check.
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[SPEAKER_17]: Well, she has not responded for several days and her and she hasn't checked in with her boss so I called her son and he has now said that he like harmed her and she's dead and are you a co-worker?
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[SPEAKER_17]: I'm her friend and her I'm her emergency contact.
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[SPEAKER_17]: Don't her boss help me.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, in your name?
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[SPEAKER_17]: Lori Baker, L-O-O-R-I-E Baker.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And did he say, when this happened, like, when did you speak with him today?
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[SPEAKER_17]: Today, just a little bit ago.
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[SPEAKER_17]: And he said, I can't keep lying to you.
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[SPEAKER_17]: He's been telling me that she's just been drinking.
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[SPEAKER_17]: I don't really know what to say.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: And you said she hasn't shown up for work either?
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[SPEAKER_17]: She has not.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, is this something live there?
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[SPEAKER_17]: Yeah, uh-huh.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, did he say what he did?
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[SPEAKER_05]: What is it?
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[SPEAKER_05]: A crowbar, okay.
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[SPEAKER_17]: Well, yeah, he just has... Has he even known to have any kind of mental issues or anything?
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[SPEAKER_17]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_05]: That was Christopher.
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[SPEAKER_05]: If you don't know this, yes.
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[SPEAKER_17]: He's 30, something.
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[SPEAKER_17]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_17]: Maybe 35?
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[SPEAKER_05]: And is he white black hazelnut spannacks?
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[SPEAKER_17]: He's white.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay, he had the same last name Baker or his last name different.
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[SPEAKER_17]: No, no, no Thompson.
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[SPEAKER_17]: It's Paula Thompson.
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[SPEAKER_05]: No, you're Baker.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I wrote my notes wrong.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I'm sorry.
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[SPEAKER_17]: My last name is Peter.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Yeah, I got it right now.
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[SPEAKER_17]: That's okay.
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[SPEAKER_17]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_17]: Any have a record.
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[SPEAKER_17]: And like he has had some anger management issues before, but well, obviously, never to disagree.
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[UNKNOWN]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_17]: So I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_17]: I mean, I couldn't tell if he was like, right?
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[SPEAKER_17]: No why he would say that if he didn't do that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: How old is Paula?
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[SPEAKER_05]: I should ask you that earlier, sorry.
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[SPEAKER_17]: She is just about 50 or right around that.
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[SPEAKER_05]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_05]: I got the trip in.
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[SPEAKER_05]: We're going to get some officers headed over there.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Police arrived at the home, and what they discovered was grim.
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[SPEAKER_11]: They discovered Paula deceased in the bedroom, the scene of course showed bloodstains.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Signs of Christopher's cleaning, and the obvious signs of severe trauma.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Please.
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[SPEAKER_16]: Oh.
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[SPEAKER_16]: Please.
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[SPEAKER_16]: And whole traffic, we have a person down inside the house we're looking for any other subject now.
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[SPEAKER_16]: A lot of clutter right here on the store.
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[SPEAKER_16]: I'm sorry, she's been drugger-moved, right?
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[SPEAKER_16]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_08]: We'll go take a look.
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[SPEAKER_16]: We'll go take a look.
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[SPEAKER_16]: Let's check this door.
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[SPEAKER_16]: We check this one.
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[SPEAKER_16]: How do you get to that?
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[SPEAKER_16]: Hey, could you get to this little area from under the stairs?
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[SPEAKER_16]: Yeah, never mind.
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[SPEAKER_16]: I see it, I just, I was looking for like where the water heater is and stuff.
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[SPEAKER_16]: Yeah, it's, it's clear down here.
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[SPEAKER_16]: Is there a garage?
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[SPEAKER_16]: 245 Adam, if you want to notify supervisor, an item that I have a 504 come out here.
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[SPEAKER_16]: There's a crowbar here on the table.
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[SPEAKER_16]: Is there a garage?
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[SPEAKER_06]: uh the tacos yeah it's gonna welcome me to touch the new um the uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh uh
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[SPEAKER_16]: What's double, we're going to peek inside the car again real quick.
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[SPEAKER_16]: 45 at him.
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[SPEAKER_12]: Uh, they can come in.
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[SPEAKER_16]: It's uh, an obvious, but I want to do another sweep of the upstairs.
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[SPEAKER_16]: Yeah, I mean, I just peeked around there too.
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[SPEAKER_16]: I just want to make sure we check everywhere.
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[SPEAKER_16]: We don't think we looked in there because that bag was already in front of the door.
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[SPEAKER_06]: This is a closet thing.
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[SPEAKER_06]: We need to have this in that phone for the son.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Maybe we can get a hold of it.
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[SPEAKER_16]: OK. Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_16]: Anyway, yeah, I guess I'm pretty confident that he's not here, but we're going to do one more sweep.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'll hang out out here in that way.
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[SPEAKER_06]: There's one more person on the street.
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[SPEAKER_16]: Yeah, I mean, she's got settling, she's been down for a while.
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[SPEAKER_16]: So she got some blood journey and the blood's coagulated and dry.
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[SPEAKER_06]: So we just need that if we come in or not, not even.
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[SPEAKER_16]: I don't even think that it's pretty obvious.
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[SPEAKER_06]: I'm not sure.
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[SPEAKER_16]: Well, well, they're here on the, yeah, there's some, when we first peaked that or we,
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[SPEAKER_16]: There's some bottles and stuff over here, probably been doing a lot of dirty stuff.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Just back there running the sign and see if I can kind of see the crowbar over there.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_06]: Dave, Dave.
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[SPEAKER_12]: I'm 45 Adam.
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[SPEAKER_16]: I'm 45 Adam.
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[SPEAKER_16]: I'm 45 Adam.
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[SPEAKER_16]: I'm 45 Adam.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm 45 Adam.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm 45 Adam.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm 45 Adam.
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[SPEAKER_08]: I'm 45 Adam.
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[SPEAKER_16]: Cuppies going to run the plate, we're going to start there from the car.
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[SPEAKER_11]: According to an autopsy report, Hollis sustained several chomp wounds to her scalp, specifically on the left-to-more region, the back of her head, behind her right ear, these chomp wounds were described in a way that suggests a blunt instrument, not a clean cut.
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[SPEAKER_11]: The examiner explained that while the edges were fairly clean,
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[SPEAKER_11]: The skin near the wounds was abraided, essentially cut and scraped back, consisted with blows from a blunt object, such as a crowbar.
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[SPEAKER_11]: There were also defensive type injuries on Paulus' right arm and hand.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Her middle-right finger tip was completely absent.
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[SPEAKER_11]: The examiner noted that these wounds, indicated she tried to block her shield herself from the blows, all was fully aware that this was happening to her.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She would have begged Christopher to stop hitting her.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She suffered extensive brain hemorrhaging, massive bleeding in her brain, consistent with severe blunt force trauma.
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[SPEAKER_11]: The officers went to Christopher's grandfather's house next.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Olivia Bine, the CFE was there.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Hi.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Hello, is Chris here?
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[SPEAKER_15]: No.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Does he live here currently?
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[SPEAKER_15]: No, he doesn't.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Okay, he talks with all recently.
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[SPEAKER_08]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Please, want to talk to him.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Who's the last time you heard from him?
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[SPEAKER_08]: I see you on the 26th of February.
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[SPEAKER_15]: okay if you want if you don't mind just look around for him he is the that is our look before right now the architect is our so he has a lived here for a couple months or longer than six months okay I was in it
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[SPEAKER_15]: Okay, but if you don't mind, we'll still look around quick.
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[SPEAKER_15]: I'm gonna be there.
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[SPEAKER_15]: We just gotta pull from the tent to say hey, we need to talk to him and he might be considered dangerous.
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[SPEAKER_15]: So that's why we came with our guns always just because I don't know him.
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[SPEAKER_15]: They told us he might be dangerous.
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[SPEAKER_15]: So for that whatever they're looking forward for, I'm not really sure.
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[SPEAKER_15]: But if you do see him here from this content, I don't want to immediately please, okay?
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[SPEAKER_15]: All right, thank you.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Sorry, by the way, you're going to see to get some information from me.
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[SPEAKER_15]: So, I believe it's used that and you've been ready to know that it's a safety issue.
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[SPEAKER_09]: I was grandfathered.
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[SPEAKER_15]: grandfathered, okay, okay.
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[SPEAKER_15]: You know, the reason we've used them all to homicide this morning.
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[SPEAKER_15]: So, that is that, so I couldn't tell you before, but no, no, it press releases out.
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[SPEAKER_15]: So, that's why we're here looking for them, is they want to talk to them in relation to homicide.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Chris has always been a little bit wild, so I distance myself.
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[SPEAKER_09]: He stayed here for a while after he got out of jail because he needed a place to stay.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_09]: But then my life went on.
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[SPEAKER_09]: You can communicate for me.
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[SPEAKER_09]: You need to move.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_15]: If he shows up, I advise not to open the door and just can call us right away.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Because if he is kind of his history being unstable, and possibly all to the homicide, I don't know if he wouldn't be safe for you to.
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[SPEAKER_09]: No.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Obviously if something's going on in this head, he's on the right side of mine.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Well, some of that could happen, so.
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[SPEAKER_15]: Okay, well, I think we should be good now.
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[SPEAKER_15]: We'll stop by this the day, sir.
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[SPEAKER_09]: No, not a problem.
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[SPEAKER_09]: You had a problem.
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[SPEAKER_11]: All right, have a good day.
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[SPEAKER_11]: It occurred to both officers that they were about to leave without telling Paul his father that his grandson killed his daughter.
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[SPEAKER_11]: I ain't doing these.
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[SPEAKER_15]: So just, you know, I just talked to our family conflict, detectives, and Paula was the victim of the homicide.
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[SPEAKER_09]: And I saw a blur about the freedom.
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[SPEAKER_15]: And so, detectives Mitchell, who is our family conflict, detectives, he's getting a victim services advocate, and they're on their way out here now.
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[SPEAKER_15]: But they asked us, I was already here and taught to that I'd be able to notify you.
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[SPEAKER_09]: Sure, I appreciate that.
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[SPEAKER_09]: So, I want to give you a couple of phone numbers also.
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[SPEAKER_11]: All his father had no reaction, listen, I've seen many reactions on this show to such news, including people that seem in shock when they hear the news, William reacted as if he heard that it was going to rain later that day, not that his grandson killed his daughter, later that same day, Christopher walked into the Polk County jail and told the staff that he had killed his mother, he was arrested and interrogated.
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[SPEAKER_11]: His confession was detailed and on emotional, and his descriptions matched the evidence in the home.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Christopher was charged with first-degree murder, prosecutors presented extensive evidence, including Paul's communications expressing fear for her safety.
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[SPEAKER_11]: His confession, the physical evidence in the house and the additional killing of the cat, the pattern that they described, was one of escalating resentment, dependency, alcoholism, probation stress,
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[SPEAKER_11]: and increasingly unstable home life, the defense argued that the killing occurred in a moment of drunken rage, and should be considered impulsive, rather than premeditated.
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[SPEAKER_11]: The jury rejected the defense argument.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Christopher Thompson was found guilty of first-degree murder, and sentenced to wife and prison, without the possibility of parole.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A Des Moines man sends to life in prison Friday from murdering his mother will be sentenced on animal cruelty charges tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: 33-year-old Christopher Thompson played a guilty to beating the death with a crowbar.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Des Moines police say Thompson murdered his mother back in March after she tried to get a move out of her home.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thompson's lawyers have already asked the court to set aside his murder conviction.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They claim COVID-19 restrictions compromise their ability to thoroughly question
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[SPEAKER_01]: potential jurors in this trial.
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[SPEAKER_11]: He also received a conviction for animal cruelty due to the killing of the cat.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Listener, all the Thompson spent the last months of her wife wearing the people around her.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She told friends, she emailed her son's probation officer.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She called police.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She said clearly that she was afraid that her son might kill her.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She tried to make him change.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She tried to hold the household together.
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[SPEAKER_11]: We'll do everything for him financially and emotionally.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Christopher did nothing to leave or improve his situation.
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[SPEAKER_11]: When their final argument ignited,
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[SPEAKER_11]: The pressure that had built inside that small house finally ruptured.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Paula died in both terror and pain.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Christopher survived and now serves life without the possibility of parole.
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[SPEAKER_11]: A family ended.
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[SPEAKER_11]: A mother was silent.
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[SPEAKER_11]: In another case entered the long list of domestic homicides that did not have to happen.
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[SPEAKER_11]: In the end, there were no surprises.
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[SPEAKER_11]: Paula saw her own fate coming.
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[SPEAKER_11]: She just couldn't stop what was coming.
